On that note, anyone have any good recommendations for Nest thermostat alternatives? I've had ecobees at my last residence and it wasn't too bad, but wondering if there is another compelling alternative?
Generally speaking, they all offer a portal and an app in which one can adjust the HVAC settings. Also, generally speaking, these apps and portals are being developed by companies for which software engineering is not a primary function, so they're about as good as you would expect.
Ecobee's consumer interface hides a lot of the useful trend data, which is the whole point of having these, IMHO. Beestat is a vast improvement on the default.
Remember, you can go to Best Buy, buy a bunch of thermostats, keep the one you like best, and return the rest with no questions asked.
> Is there anything difficult in buying a thermostat? Heating on, off, programmable. Is there something I'm missing?
It's not much different than the nuances of figuring out which phone to buy. A Samsung Galaxy and a Google Pixel might sound like they both do the same thing, but one has a bunch of crap installed and the other one has less crap, but the average person might not be able to figure out the significance of this unless they actually try both.
I would need a source for that. I don’t see how selling 1 item and having to mark down 4 others to refurb price results in a profit.
It’s also been in the news that stores keep track of people returning items, and ban them if they cost the store too much money.
Best Buy gross margins are 22%, but their net margin is 3.75%. In a good quarter.
My actual mobile spend is about £10 top-up every 90 days (mostly data/texts), I don't have a landline, and the minimum mobile contract with unlimited calls is about £5/m and 12/18 months lockin, so it's a really good deal for me.
Guess what they just cancelled with one month's notice!
I originally planned to use my HomeAssistant install to orchestrate it a little with the Awair products I have, for example, turn the AC fan on if the co2 starts getting high to flush the air, but a while ago the Ecobee app can pair up with Awair itself, so I've had no need.
Hardware was a pi and an inexpensive honeywell that was on a local network and controlled via http.
As far as working "fine" offline, I have another gripe about my Nest thermostats: Why is the sample rate on the temperature so damn slow? One of my zones is a small (~500 sq/ft) room and the HVAC can move the temperature there rather quickly. What always happens is the heat/cool usually stays on well beyond the desired set point. This is because the device does not sample the temperature often enough. If the mode is set to heat & cool, the heat and AC will both oscillate on and off forever unless the min and max are more than 5 degrees apart. It's not a matter of the Nest sensor lagging because of its heat capacity because I have tried a heat gun and freeze spray to observe the sample rate. It really sucks.
Now, because someone one day will decide to do a rewrite and cause a feature regression, this could change.