Weekends are spent chasing the kids from the time I wake up until I go to sleep.
Screw professionalism. Stay crappy and amateurish.
I'd love an community of people fighting against this feeling, especially one that isn't filled with 'gurus'. I am not sure that can exist.
Of course, fun is definitely relative. But, I believe that hacker-geeks find lots of fun building stuff.
In fact, I'll be bold enough to propose that if someone is having trouble with a side project, they might not be having enough fun doing it for it to be justifiable, and may need to do some soul-searching to find out whether they should continue with it.
I have this kind of 'fuck everything' moment from time to time. It's satisfying but not last long because the lack of further plan. Still miles better than scrolling through reddit or reading gurus advices all days without taking any action though.
I know I should make this 'spur of anger' a routine, but seriously, fuck routine for once, too.
Fear Of Not Capitalizing? FONC
I work hard on my software ideas.
I can absolutely understand if you simply don't have time - work/kids/family/friends/health etc.
But if you do have time and instead procrastinate - that's a mystery to me. I'd like to say "just do the work" but I think that would be missing the point somehow.
I made a definite decision a while back I'd rather do something with my life than play endless hours of computer games or TV/Netflix watching. I absolutely do watch TV and play computer games but it's at the very end of the day when my brain won't do any more productive work.
I personally found radical change help in this case.
Five is still ridiculous, though. There's so much waste in the system these days; the world would run fine on a three-day week.
It's time for working people to get fighting again.
Yes I am aware that early hunter gatherers worked fewer hours per week and generally had better diets. But that lifestyle wasn't sustainable after the human population expanded.
More to the point, a recent series of history blog posts discussed this question, and it seems like for most of the population, the food supply was not really limited by labour but rather by food storage ability and land area productivity (which is different). For much of the year aside from during the harvest, there was a lot of leisure time (even if people were starving, that wasn't something that harder work would necessarily solve).
But the number of hours worked rose quite a lot during the Industrial revolution in the mines and factories, this was 'peak work'.
Some data points .
That says 3-5, and it was a long time ago.
Thanks for the interesting link. If I only worked 2 hours a day on a computer, I would likely spend my free time on hunter-gatherer-gardener-cook tasks. Perhaps art and science as well.
So building a product or service seems like a primary way to get control of my life and stop putting all of my effort to benefit someone else.
The weekend is usually the only opportunity to do it.
If I could quit my job and have someone give me a bunch of seed money for my project then I would. That's not going to happen. I don't have the connections or charisma and even if I had it, they are just research ideas right now.
So for me it's very sane to spend time on the weekends working on my project and I do feel guilty when I don't put enough time into it. Because I just know that I need to build my own thing if I am going to have financial security.
So many better things to do or think about on your time off. Read a good book. Climb a mountain. Hang out with friends/family. You know, live.
I served my index.html on netlify which setup https, but I wasn't able to get an nginx server up and running to setup a https connection to the server, so the browser is complaining. Alas, it was a fun Friday night project. Coffee and Python, a solid duo.
Don't get me wrong. There was a lot wrong with the USSR, especially under Stalin. And since they didn't have a tradition of democracy and free speech in Russia, it wasn't a good place for dissidents. For most people, though, they did a much better job of lining people up with positions and careers suiting their wants and talents than our "work for rich people or you starve" system does.
Capitalism is a system that runs on human misery, led by a class of people who are completely unaccountable to anyone but themselves, who therefore have no incentive to make things decent for the workers.
If I were to live in 1970, either in the US or the USSR, I would have picked the US, no contest. Back then, capitalism actually worked. If you wanted a job, you looked a CEO up in the phone book, called him, and got one. You'd literally get every promotion if you worked two honest hours per day. It ain't like that anymore.
In 2020, capitalism sucks. There are basically no opportunities unless you inherit the connections. (I anticipate downvotes from 20-year-olds who've just read Ayn Rand and think her writing reflects how the world really works.) Would communism have degraded just as fast? It's hard to say. I doubt it, but we'll never know, since we destroyed it.
The last two capitalistic organizations I've worked for, all my co-workers were cheery, friendly, helpful, and enjoyed their jobs. The people frustrated were the ones that did their jobs as good as they could and were frustrated by a lack of excellence in the face of large scale and complexity. I wouldn't call this misery. And one of those companies was literally rated the most hated corporation in America. I've also worked for places were people were lazy, bureaucratic, and did the least work possible to collect their paycheck (heck I was that person). Ultimately corporations are made up of people, and there's all different kinds of people out there, so there's also all different kinds of corporations.
> led by a class of people who are completely unaccountable to anyone but themselves, who therefore have no incentive to make things decent for the workers.
They're accountable to shareholders and government regulatory bodies, and in very rare circumstances, to unions. Certainly there should be more accountability within the organization from the bottom-up, but it's fallacious to think they don't answer to anybody. The actual incentives vary, but usually stem from either competition, or seeking to drive quality and efficiency. Business management is more art than science.
Have you lived in the Soviet Union? I haven't, but have in Communist Poland which had similar work culture. In general, people were slacking off and stealing from the job to the largest extent possible (stealing because the jobs didn't pay a living wage or, if they did, you couldn't buy things you need from stores anyway, so you stole them from the job if possible). The organization of work was often a complete travesty which makes government jobs a paragon of efficiency and common sense.  On top of that, higher promotions required being vocal about supporting the communist party, which led to incompetent mediocrities being promoted.
Overall, while I'm sure there were stil some people who took pride in their work (esp. the less smart and informed ones, who couldn't see the sad bigger picture), I can't tell if it was more common than in capitalism.
 For example, it wasn't uncommon for people who bought a new car to take it to a mechanic to disassemble and reassemble it completely. Only then you could be sure that the car is put together properly - the workers in the factory who worked on the car just didn't care. Another story - in an apartment in a new building my parents bought in 1979, a 1m x 3m section of the wall was missing. The building company just didn't bother to build it (the same defect was present in all flats), and have put a thin wall of plaster and cardboard in place instead. Of course, that wall provided almost zero thermal insulation in severe winters that Poland had at the time, so everyone who bought these flats ended up DIY-ing the missing wall themselves (usually with stolen bricks, as you couldn't buy them either).
On HN everybody is a temporarily embarrassed billionaire.
See "Internalised capitalism" - when you feel guilty for resting:
Let's see how many downvotes I get
Don't sink too far into those depths.
Personally I utterly relate to what the author is trying to express - so I heave a wry chuckle and after a momentary rush of kinship with the author sitting at his keyboard thousands of miles away, I move on. And what is HN if not a community of individuals sharing a connection.
I will never understanding this perspective of being in a great position and not having to worry about money while being apathetic toward the entire situation.