I'm honestly at a loss. Is this some galaxy brain "let's make the web experience terrible to force people to native apps" strategy?
Is this some galaxy brain "let's make the web experience terrible to force people to native apps" strategy?
The good thing is that refusing to download the app has cleared me of my reddit addiction
I also found that the mobile dials home quite regularly when in background.
Everything they’ve done after maybe 2010 could just be thrown away.
An enormous waste of programmer effort and time for something that is a lot worse than what they started with.
Throw in the second-system effect they fell for in my humble opinion, and you got your explanation of what's going on.
Next up: Rinse and repeat.
10 years isn't necessarily bad either. Just look at HN. Functional with minimum of JS, 2.0kB transferred to load this reply page, tho it will not win any fancy design awards anytime soon. But all in all, great user experience. If you wanted to inline the reply form into the comments pages, that can be done easily in under 1KB of unminified js.
Loading the reddit frontpage (not signed in, adblocker): 21.8MB transferred (11.7 without media and fonts), 501 requests (183), 20+ seconds to load, 11667 ms of scripting. What the actual fuck.
old.reddit.com: 2.7MB transferred (2.1MB), 100 requests (24), <2seconds to load, <300ms of scripting.
Honestly I'm pretty sure this could be said for the entirety of the web and we'd be better off.
You've just described a whole lot of programming work.
It is exactly that. Apps are proprietary, so they can be closed, filled with ads or spyware (name one app that doesn't ask for access rights to everything), and branded. Even the groceries store down the street would likely force you to use their own crappy app - so you would have their logo on your home screen - rather than a generic browser that won't tell anyone you buy from them.
It sucks because I love reddit, but it will be EOL for the people who made it what it is in about 3-5 years
1 - https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy
I think they are well aware that a lot of older users (some likely heavy _content_contributors_) will simple walk away if they do this.
You can't sell ads if you don't have original content that drives traffic to your pages....
old.reddit.com as well as '.compact' are the price to pay to prevent a digg type exodus.
One of the more insulting parts of their UX.
I bet forcefully unsetting it bumps their usage metrics for the new site though.
I often browse Reddit with Safari and there haven't been very many extensions available for it. Certainly none to do something simple like this, since it would have to be made available through the app store.
PS: Apple has announced that FireFox and Chrome extensions can be made available for Safari in Big Sur, although it seems like they have to go through a convoluted process and probably pay $99/year for the privilege.
RedReader and Slide come to mind.
Edit: that was on Android, I guess there are alternatives for iOS too, even if less likely to be open source.
Definitely have a feeling its days are numbered, they'll eventually start disabling bits of their API.
For Reddit though, most of the time subreddits aren't really meant to be consumed "live", or many-posts-at-once, which means that for me, this ultimately just ends up shrinking my Reddit browsing experience into a thin column surrounded by content I don't care about at the current moment, which goes against the "efficiency" that I imagine this design is intended for.
For folks who like this style of UI, what do you get out of it?
I really hate mobile first whitespace trend of modern designs (not talking about reddit here).
This project is an interesting take because I can browse all of them simultaneously without having to context switch so much.
https://i.reddit.com is one good frontend.
For desktops, use https://old.reddit.com
Whoever at Reddit came up with the idea to badger users on every other click to ‘open the Reddit app’ needs to be dealt with.
- It wasn't immediately obvious to me that modifying the UI on rddeck.com (by leaving subreddits) would actually modify my subscriptions on my account. There's a place for managing your subs in something like this, but it should be a lot more clear, and I think the main focus should be on the user customizing the UI without modifying their account
- The oblong pill loading bars at the top of each column look exactly like drag handles, and I was super confused why I couldn't rearrange the columns by dragging them. I think that making them drag handles would be useful, and reimplementing the loading bar as something else would be a good change.
- Dragging to rearrange the subreddit order is painfully janky in both safari and firefox for me on macOS. It's almost unusable.
- The subreddit sort order dropdown / active sort order implementation is strange. Simply having just the current sort order + a little chevron pointing down in a button would be much more intuitive.
If this was open source, I'd definitely be willing to contribute. Cool start, and a cool idea.
I've come to the conclusion that it's impossible. It's totally closed from being played outside of reddit.com by using CORS. I can't in any way play the DASH or HLS files from reddit.
I can load the mp4 fallback, but guess what? It's a video without audio. You can get the audio, but it's not documented anywhere (found on stackoverflow, I think). But of course, playing two files at once and syncing them is bound to break, specially on slow networks.
For a website dedicated to sharing stuff from all around the web (reddit didn't even have image hosting until a few years ago), it is really a dick move that you can't share stuff from reddit elsewhere.
It's a shame. Reddit is merely a shell of what it used to be, sadly.
Edit: You seem to have the same problem with video :(
Reddit has moved away from being a sharing website to being a social network. This started years ago, but they have consistently move in the direction of siloing users. Strongly encourage users to upload images and videos directly to reddit; Reddit media cannot be hot-linked and always shows you the reddit thread; new features are only available in the official site and apps; certain media won't play properly on third party apps; website experience degraded by constantly pushing users to their app, where they can better control and track them.
Really lame though. Reddit needs an embed thing like YouTube, but I have feeling they want people on Reddit, which is why links to Reddit media take you to the comment section.
I mean, if I have to deal with that anyways, then I'll just use reddit's own interface.
I still use it daily and I have a small reddit icon which will open the relevant reddit.com post on a new tab and I can see it then.
It just shouldn't be like this, but "oh, well..."
Reddit's redesign was an absolute catastrophy. Its sluggish and the mobile popups that direct users to app or Web is downright intrusive.
I use baconreader premium on mobile to keep my sanity.
Disclosure: I have no affiliation with baconreader app / team.
I want that. Let me download the messages, sift through them how I want to and reply.
Oops - I forgot. Communication isn't the goal of forums these days; monetization is :(
What technology stack did you use in the front end?
I'm curious, what's your criteria for propaganda? Is it just content/viewpoints that you don't like? Likewise, for bots. Can link to some examples of bot-like behavior that's happening on reddit? Preferably provide hard evidence of some kind, like the ones done for this story: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/27/technology/so...
Either subscribe to a bunch of them, one for each world view, or just classify reddit as a flawed news source and move on to something better.
natchy: "Youtube Comments, the app"
I don't understand.
Reddit worked hard to keep alt-right viewpoints on the site, but subs like r/the_donald were so nasty that they had no choice. They also banned liberal subs at the same time.
Let's not act like Reddit is banning subs that discuss trickle down economics or debate the merits of a smaller government.
what like wanting health care and a clean environment for everyone?
i'm all for revolution, my best friend is actually a bolshevik, just don't use non-political medium to push some agenda
Can you link to some examples? If anything my experience is opposite. I saw a highly upvoted post on /r/all denouncing someone who was pro "white genocide".
> on a forum intended for cat pictures seems pretty radical to me
Is reddit "intended" for cat pictures? It might be the reason that you joined, or the content that you liked, but the default subs cover a wide range of topics, not just cat pictures and memes.
Not only do I not believe that, I'm sure the Bolsheviks had some words about attempting to separate the world into separate "political" and "apolitical" arenas.
I also don't see pro-riot anywhere...have any references for any of this? I am on reddit all the time...
>Your post will be removed if it:
>is an opinion/analysis or advocacy piece.
>The title must be the actual title or the lead.
Can you explain how links to articles from major news outlets, with titles unchanged can be "radical left propaganda"? Just for posterity I took a picture of the current submissions on /r/news: https://i.imgur.com/rsTm7Rj.png. Can you point out where the "radical left propaganda" are?
Trust me, you're not
You can subscribe/unsubscribe from subs on the main page when logged in. If you want to block subs from appearing on r/all, you can with Reddit Gold or an extension.
What? In this a recent thing or something for new accounts? I can subscribe/unsubscribe just fine.