A few records were announced this week that I'm pretty excited for, if you need some inspiration:
For whatever reason, Spotify etc. seem to demote the existence of the label to a tiny font with no label “home page” or anything. You can search by label but it’s pretty hidden and doesn’t work 100%. I wonder if part of their long term plan is to remove labels from the equation...
Anyway, I was wondering if you had any plans for a public facing API to search your catalogue? I’ve got loads of ideas for content discovery tools but the lack of an API makes them impractical. For example, I built this to find your top Spotify artists on Bandcamp, but without an API all it can do is link off to a search so it’s quite a frustrating UX: https://tomduncalf.github.io/supportify/
Also there's a recurring theme/running gag on NTS Radio that it's faster to find releases on Bandcamp through Google than through the internal search. I've witnessed several times that linking to releases is crowdsourced to the NTS chat because the DJs can't find it fast enough.
And they are pushing Bandcamp a lot, with whole shows dedicated solely to music available on Bandcamp. Mostly on the "no-fee fridays".
So an improved search or an API to enable external discovery tools would be great!
Even a nobody like me with no label and no interest in marketing my music can trivially upload my music, manage my own page with my own branding (in theory), and get the stats I care about on how people engage with the music. For free (technically for a revenue share, but I don't sell my music)!
And unlike something like Spotify/iTunes/Soundcloud, the platform is not the dominant brand when someone visits my Bandcamp page.
On top of all this, Bandcamp's been super generous with dropping their revenue share during the outbreak to help artists.
So yeah, I love everything about it. Bandcamp's hands-down my favorite music publishing platform, no contest. Thanks and long may it continue!
We hope to release our first EP at the end of the summer. Looking forward to putting it on Bandcamp!
While many are independent, you also have a lot of labels on BC (at least for metal) ;)
Jamendo has radios, "best of" and "trending" lists per genre, artist, tag and across their whole music selection which makes discovery really easy. For bandcamp, knowledge of who's who seems to be necessary and I don't have the time to be that into music. That's why jamendo has been getting my money lately.
Good job :)
I work on the discovery team, so this is great feedback to have, thank you :)
(also proper radio is a great idea)
Hmm, I had a look at it and though I like the top layout, what's missing is automatically playing the next item. I can't just hit play, resume doing something else and when the occasional good song pops up add it to my favorites, a playlist or just open it in a new tab and play the whole album.
Maybe my way of discovering music isn't normal, but I think Soundcloud and Jamendo did it pretty well. I could have music playing for ages and keep adding to my favorites and playlists without actively having to know any artist.
The /tag/ page worked only for the highlights, but "all electronic releases" would only play one song and I couldn't play the next song (Firefox 77). In theory though, that's more of what I'm looking for, so thumbs up.
Not sure how long the discovery part has been up, but to me it seems new.
Also, Soundcloud's feature of playing similar songs from the track's page was very nice. That would also help a lot with music discovery.
You can sort by genre and a few other variables, but I leave it on the default settings and listen to anything that seems interesting, one page at a time. The Discover section is available on the android app, but it doesn't give me the same feeling that I'm rummaging through a record store.
Thanks for the link nonetheless.
Any chance that the app will get Chromecast support?
I can't really comment, but it is a common request... I'm curious, are you using Chromecast via TV or Chromecast Audio (or something else)?
Really digged the job puzzles you had too... even when I wasn't actively looking was fun to solve. Just a shame you're not hiring at the moment.
that said, I have to disagree with you about the app. in particular, the cache seems to be the source of my woes. it's difficult (impossible? I don't even know) to deal with any payment or cart related features through the app.
my main problem is that songs regularly get stuck in a bad state, only starting the songs at random points instead of 0:00, and the only way I've discovered to fix this once and for all is to delete all data. sometimes songs just won't play, and I retreat to youtube to listen to something that I've already purchased.
Not sure he's underground (and more acid than IDM), but Ceephax Acid Crew is always excellent. I especially recommend the releases Acid Quakers 1000, Exidy Tours, World Dissolver, and Cro Magnox (but really, look up any of his music videos on YouTube. They're insanely fun)
For more downtempo or glitchy type stuff, check out:
Lanark Artefax - Whities 011 (Touch Absence is a track that shouldn't be missed. The music video is good too)
Proem - Socially Inept
Lusine - Condensed (the track Rushhour is superb)
Grischa Lichtenberger - Graviton - cx (rigid transmission)
Oneohtrix Point Never - Garden of Delete
Albums not on Bandcamp worth checking out:
Access to Arasaka - void();
Richard Devine - Asect:Dsect
You probably know these, bit worth mentioning:
Venetian Snares - "Hospitality" and "Rossz Csillag Alatt Született"
Autechre - Oversteps
Alva Noto - "Xerrox" series
One of my favourite tracks of the last few years, such great production
I know a few of the others (used to love that Proem album, big Alva Noto fan), will check the rest. Thanks!
Just copped this the other week! Good record.
* Analogical force
* Further electronix
* Touched - quite varied output, some IDM
* CPU records
Here are some more labels from the chilled out side:
* City centre offices
* Morr music
* Kit records
* BRAINWALTZERA (big tip!)
* James Shinra
* Cristoph de Babylon
* Bochum Welt
* The Remote Viewer (especially the "black" album, can't remember the name)
* Jan Jelinek (dub IDM sort of)
* Global communication
If you're a fan of the 90s-2000 stuff from SF's SomaFM  their playlist is always pretty good, I actually ripped their entire station (back in the early 2000s there was only Groove Salad and maybe 2-3 others) for 6 months and bought pieces here and there as I went along. My favorite was a rare Lloop album, and a remix album of The Irresistible Force's track Nepalese Bliss. I always wanted a vinyl copy of Stryke - Introspection, I already have the CD version, but couldn't find it anywhere, even on Discogs after all these years. I got a bunch of Higher Intelligence Agency stuff, too somewhere in a box.
It's hard to know exactly when IDM turns into Ambient, and where Ambient can cross over to Triphop on that station, but I found a ton of amazing stuff from really niche artists like Global Communication, Mark Pritchard, who eventually got into the same Dubstep sound I was into later on and got his stuff released on one of the most venerates labels at the Time (DeepMedi). He even came from Australia and played at the Dub War nights in NY with Joe Nice.
I actually met Gel-Sol randomly in a chatroom, and he gave me a cut of his album with no strings attached  when I recognized his name back when I was an incoming freshman living in the dorms to listen and review while we spoke. I never saw him again after we spent all night talking about EDM/IDM artists we liked and the album ahead of its release. My GF at the time just rolled her eyes and told me I could have just told her I didn't want to hang out instead of making up some elaborate lie to stay in my room all night on the computer.
I just played Few and Far Between while updating this with links and it still puts a smile on my face remembering that night.
Those were crazy fun days that I'm still fond of, especially given where my musical tastes have gone throughout the years spanning/DJ'ng dark deep UK halfstep 140/170BPM and now into Darksynth and Dark Elctro as it doesn't make any sense as I originally come from the chiller, cerebral, calmer IDM ambient side of EDM, too.
Here is another playlist with featured Groove salad tracks to check out .
Glad to see the Bandcamp guys checking in, thanks for what you do, guys!
However, MBR earns some major geek cred by probably being the only music project running its own IRC, BBS, gopher, etc.. HTTP is totally worth a visit if just for the pretty CSS: http://mbrserver.com
Do dig up his “WAREZ” too, his album of remixes, that are not on Bandcamp – the Doom remix is to die for.
On a related note, if there were a similar site for drm-free movie purchases, I’d be all over it.
No joke. Call me old fashioned, but I love self-hosting my music collection and BandCamp is a key in facilitating that. I would do the same with movies if it were an option.
And for my convenience they also provide Ogg Vorbis downloads which I prefer for putting on mobile devices due to reduced storage requirements.
With most any other site you can only get MP3s.
When I first discovered Bandcamp ~5 years ago it was pretty hard to find (metal) bands of interest. By now the site has really caught on and tons of established bands that I have been listening to for years are releasing their music there.
It's still also really good for obscure stuff too. There was a band from my city (in the USA) whose album could only be bought in Germany. Only after they made a Bandcamp release was I finally able to obtain it!
Brood's album was on Spotify for a brief time until it was retracted (by label or guys no one knows). Since there was some movement on GB's site there might be some hope, as that request is literally under each video with songs from either project.
Cheers from Urals!
I'm also buying like 3 more to support artists.
ABout 7 years go now, Soundcloud enabled Bitcoin donations, and about a team of 5 guys includin me went on a tipping frenzy and tried to get adoption going that way. It was funny, because reddit allowed for direct Bitcoin donations there via a bot and you could name it whatever you wanted. So we did the same on Soundcloud, it's funny because I log into my old soundcloud account at the History of them is still there.
Anyhow, I tipped like 20-30 guys on SC and even got some runway from an early adopter ($100?) to take it further and met a few EDM guys coming into Hollywood/LA area for a few sets and tried to explain it to them as none of them picked up there funds. Apparently, Soundcould didn't do a good job of notifying them that they had money waiting for them so ultimately it failed.
I ended up giving the Bits I had left into people who set up full nodes on the network. But I always thought, especially as a DJ myself, that supporting artists with micropayments would be a good solution. Youtube now allows for tipping in their chatbox as I saw a few in house performances/sets be tipped by followers and fans, but it was always over $1+, which is awesome, but entirely impractical if you want people to send what little they may have on hand to listen a song/remix/dj set/podcast for most people unless you have a very dedicated and quite frankly affluent followers. I'd rather have a 100k-million fans tip 10-50 cents then the four or five die-hards give $10 so I can continue to make content. Paetreon, Gofundme, Kickstarter and such are just needless middlemen at this point and hosting content is super cheap with even multimedia with a $5/month vimeo account.
Anyhow, happy hunting tomorrow, I'm all digital now so I can buy and support a lot more music/artists I otherwise had to ignore because of format.
I used to be terrible for "less legal" downloads until I discovered beatport, Juno and bandcamp.
I'm pretty sure bandcamp is one of the reasons for my vinyl habit now. Complete 180.
It should also be said that plenty of labels are operating Bandcamp pages, where they can take a cut of digital sales and then pay (or not pay...) artists. It can make sense for artists who are trying leverage the resources of a larger organization. IMO it’s something bands should negotiate aggressively since Bandcamp might be their best (possibly their only!) shot at recouping their expenses or selling merch.
It all happens client side, no tracking or data collection or anything - you can view the source to check :)
I'm looking for a tool to export Spotify playlists to text/csv and can only find weird commercial solutions; maybe the way to go is to use `spotify-web-api-js` and build it on the client side.
It's basically a randomized top list player, but it lets you just put some music on in the background and mark the stuff you liked.
Truly an amazing platform.
I am also really happy that Paysage d'Hiver got a call out in the article. Such an amazing, one person, lo-fi, atmospheric black metal. It's great to program to as it just drowns out any distractions.
> Someone grabs an LP from Paysage d'Hiver, the Swiss black metal band.
The one (20 minute) track that I listened to had sort of a atmospheric Bathory feel.
Being able to buy the whole catalogue from an artist with one click is great. Maybe patreon style subscription for artists you like could also be interesting - reliable subscription revenue would make a world of difference to many artists.
And please add playlists!
ps. if you like 80s sophisticated disco, that Jessie Ware album "What's Your Pleasure" is totally awesome.
Big thank-you to the team behind Bandcamp and their fairer payout model to artists (compared to other outlets)
I have to download then manage via iTunes and upload to my phone, which seems crazy as I have 100s of tracks available on BC itself...
Focusing on an app often seems to lead to a slippery slope of metric driven development, feature creep, engagement analytics, notifications, etc. First it's personal playlists, then it's publishing playlists, then it's liking other people's playlists, then it's artist endorsed playlists, then it's sharing playlists to other social media platforms, then it's being notified that a playlist you like has been updated, etc. etc.
(My one gripe with the app is the slightly childish decision to hide the download links for music you already own.)
That said anything pushing against the chilling affect of Spotify is a win.