> To allow the ventilator to completely breathe for him, doctors had him chemically paralyzed, which required heavier sedatives to prevent the trauma of being conscious while unable to move. So Mr. Temko’s sedation was switched to midazolam, a benzodiazepine, and fentanyl, an opioid — drugs that exacerbate delirium.
> The repeated nursing visits Mr. Temko needed interrupted his sleep-wake cycle, so he’d often take daytime naps and become sleepless and agitated at night, said Jason Bloomer, an I.C.U. nurse.
Sounds like a perfect storm for delirium. I've had several stints in the hospital and the ones in the ICU and tele-wing were the worst. The opiates combined with the constant interruptions in the middle of the night meant that I got terrible sleep but also was constantly drowsy so I felt like I was in a persistent zombie state. When I was able to sleep it would be this half-awake/half-asleep state and I would talk out loud. I really sympathize with these people. Being hospitalized sucks (but yes, obviously I'd rather be hospitalized than die).
One of the ways SV is trying to help with this is via AR/VR. The research is slow going, but there may be some promise. If you can use VR/AR to lessen some depression/pain medication dosages, you can open up a lot of other drugs for use.
Maybe you can let long term patients out to a VR beach for a few hours or go back home or to church. Maybe let them game/socialize for a bit while partially mobilized. Every little thing helps (maybe, send more grants).
I get the impression that many still think of this as simply a bad flu, and believe that a more accurate picture of the effects of the disease might help people respond a bit more sensibly.
He experienced what this article is talking about — icu psychosis.
He thought that he had been kidnapped, that he was being tortured, that I was trying to kill him and replace him. He begged me for mercy, he apologized for anything he did to me. And I was just standing there telling him he was going to be okay. He didn’t know who I was a lot of the time. It was terrifying to watch.
Eventually they put him into an induced coma when they put him on a ventilator, but even after they woke him up, it took a week for him to realize who he was and who we were and what had happened to him. He kept begging us to take him home.
Every time he woke up, we had to tell him where he was, who we were, what happened to him, what year it was what day it was.
It really took him 6 months to get anything close to who he was when he went in and he’s still not completely the same person. The light went out in some ways and never came back in again.
Did a bunch of research, this isn’t covid specific, some huge percentage of people in the icu go through this but it’s not publicized nearly enough. The worst part is it’s a known thing, but there’s zero mental health support coming out of it. Especially since my sister went to rehab, they just weren’t staffed for it but couldn’t get her to people who were until the rehab ran it’s course.
EDIT: gee, sorry if this came off the wrong way but I really was trying to answer the question "is this any different ...?"
If you want to see real examples of censorship, a forum for liberal tech nerds overlapping with venture capitalists probably ain’t it
(For the record, I had Covid)
I worry a little though that comments by people who had coronavirus suffer from survivorship bias - the ones who died rarely log onto HN.
Edit: I misread your qualifier of "under 50 age group". Overall fatality rate seems to be around 0.4% according to the CDC site.
For context the IFR is reported by the cdc at .26%
This is the CFR which is higher. If you consider their projection that 35% of all infected cases remain asymptomatic, the overall infection fatality rate (IFR) drops to just 0.26 %.
Regular Joe's are funny if you tell them they can't wear a mask they would wear one.
The divide feels age related. People are going to die over it.
The more info we get, the more it looks like the real death rate is 1-2%.
It happens a LOT with sedated patients, and no one tells them about it first. It can leave some patients with severe PTSD because the same sedation that causes it also blocks them from communicating about it.
See: https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/22/nightmares-after-t... or just search for "sedation hallucinations".
I first started seeing it in regard to the "happy hypoxics" , and I've been seeing more and more reports on the neurological effects... 
This is bad.
There's also been evidence that it infects the central nervous system: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7094171/
This is a scary disease. To take another example, the flu, AFAIK, is not neuroinvasive and does not cross the blood brain barrier.
It seems that there are neurological complications (as well as clotting problems and kidney problems), but let's not forget that this disease primarily turns lungs into chewing gum. I don't think any neurological complication can cause a patient to self-destruct their lungs.
25 percent to 80 percent of people with COVID-19 have such mild cases that they are unaware they have the virus. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/50-percent-of-people-...
Beyond that a follow up study done on severe patients with lung damage that showed the damage healed within 2.5 months: https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-27359/v1
And yes, most people make it through. This is certainly not a MERS kind of a monster.
> Beyond that a follow up study done on severe patients with lung damage that showed the damage healed within 2.5 months
That's good news. Some weeks ago, medical researchers were afraid the damage might be permanent.
The NYT is sensationalizing, this isn't from COVID itself, it's from the sedation.
From the same newspaper: https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/22/nightmares-after-t...
Can't read it due to paywall. I'm expecting "reports" and anecdotes.
Any disease that impacts the body will show a great range of effects. If the case reports is not in the 5 or six digits we are really talking about a rare. Not many. Everything can be "many" with case numbers this high.
I don't mind reporting on this, but this is click bait.
It should say "in rare cases or unknown cases this happens". Not "many".
> Reports from hospitals and researchers suggest that about two-thirds to three-quarters of coronavirus patients in I.C.U.’s have experienced it in various ways.
TFA cites the following for the two-thirds and three-quarters figures:
OP admits themselves that they had already made up their mind about the content of an article they couldn’t even view. They’re not arguing in good faith.
One study is named Neurologic Features in Severe SARS-CoV-2 Infection. Severe!
The other is named irium Incidence, Duration and Severity in Critically Ill Patients with COVID-19. Critically ill!
So we talking about critically ill patients. Within the US that's rare. Simple numbers. When you say two thirds, make it clear what two thirds you are actually talking about. Leaving out half of the context will make anything look scary. That is why people on the street say you might be asymptomatic but you get brain damage. Which is BS. First you have to be critically ill from covid19. With all treatment side effects and everything. So no, your asymptomatic friend is not having hallucinations. Pure click bait.