We've got maps of the Cascades and my home state of Vermont.
We're software guys. We've got a custom website but we're using Shopify for our checkout. We'd love feedback on the maps, the website, or anything at all!
Regardless of the terminology, they look stunning. Definitely appeal to the map geek in me.
It's more descriptive, but potentially at a cost of understanding.Though maybe we should be targeting the demographic who knows what a "relief" map is though... Unsure, just making this up as we go along!
By coincidence, I happened to be researching algorithms for generating 3D meshes from height maps for procedural terrain generation. While it looks like the classical Delaunay trianglization remains the best strategy. I wonder if the high fidelity of next gen sensor data will uncover new techniques. Most PCG techniques employ pretty noisy maps and never quite look "real".
Fast Polygonal Approximation of Terrains And Height Fields (1995)
Very cool stuff. I'll give that paper a read.
There's a weird trick that our brains play on us when the light comes from somewhere other than the north, the ridges and valleys look inverted.
There's been some research on this and the consensus is that sunlight coming from the northwest is best for making the terrain appear "natural".
If you rotate the map 180, you'll see what I mean. The deep gully coming down Shastina looks like a ridge, for example.
While we are printing these on-off, there is a fair bit of work involved in generating the source images: generating hillshade layers, photoshopping the results, etc, so I'm afraid we can't do custom lighting and colors right now.
We're figuring that out right now. We've got a FB ad campaign going and have gotten a few sales, but this line just went live on Wednesday. Our original maps (released at the end of March) were all of Vermont ski mountains and with ski season cut short by the pandemic, we think we missed the boat timing wise.
Our main priorities right now are expanding our geographic reach so that more people can find something that they like. We've got a few more series in the works that we should have up within the month that will greatly expand our offerings.
Then... FB ads, content marketing, target blogs and relevant traditional media? Maybe try and get prints in visitors centers, lodges, hotels, etc?
if so, how is that going and was it worth the work?
Headless, AFAIK, is a higher pricing tier. We're just sorta hacking the standard plan.
But what is a map geek?
A personal aesthetic where the visual, geometric and topological apects conspire to induce a overpowering feeling for the beauty of spatial possibility.
A spatial imagination, which can look at a map, but see the landscape. The symbolic abstractions vanish as a transparent veil over the underlying truth. A skill and a motivation also correlated with mathematics, physics, (computer) graphics, typography, chess, classical music, art and sculpture.
A specific intuitive understanding of topography, based on what it would look like on the ground, with nuances of intervisibility, and the operational task of planning of hiking routes. Perhaps also interwoven with knowledge of local geology, flora and fauna. Ultimately enabling navigating without maps, by the familiarity of the trail, the interlocking of landmark and timeline, and the experience of light and weather by the seasons. Striding out to the summit and rolling down to beat the sunset.
Can there be a map geek who is not also a hiker?
The mapgeekiness of the (probably male) introverted techie personality. Not just viewing and relating to the beauty, but a desire to know, capture and own, all of it. The collector of the specimens, the librarian of the catalog, the unconsulted oracle preoccupied with imaginings of unspoken theories.
Also: Are there any developer-friendly datasets for climate, terrain, and other IRL data? I've spent a lot of time curating stuff from NOAA and Data.gov to fit me needs. Huge time sink! If this doesn't exist then somebody should do this ;)
The "National Map" has a lot of the available high resolution elevation data (derived from LiDAR), but not all of it. Much of this data is collected by the states, so often there is more data on a state's geoportal. If you tell me what state you're interested in I can send you a link if I've got it.
For the national data: https://viewer.nationalmap.gov/basic/
How did you go about your land cover masking / color assignment? I assume you're just using lidar here, but land cover retrieval can be tricky. Maybe by downscaling a coarser land cover datasource?
I ask because I work on this (segmentation, land cover) and just wonder what folks are up to!
I've been banging my head against the wall trying to similarly classify other states and haven't had much luck yet. I was initially trying to do it just using orthoimagery, but I'm thinking pairing it with the LAS files will be helpful.
Got any resources you like for downsampling or other techniques?
Yeah, it's not the 2nd tallest mountain in the continental US. There are a bunch of mountains in Colorado that are taller and the tallest one is in California
Mount Whitney 14,494 feet
Mount Elbert 14,433 feet
Mount Massive 14,421 feet
Mount Harvard of Colorado 14,420 feet
Mount Rainier 14,410 feet
I'm always amazed at how many different ways we can count mountains.
Adams and Shasta for me. Am hoping to get back to the PNW for volcano season next year to do some ski mountaineering. I love these mountains.
I've done Baker ski resort backcountry, but that's actually on Mt Shuksan (despite the name). Shuksan is not a volcano but widely considered one of the most beautiful mtns in the PNW.
You gotta get on some volcanoes with the split next May!
I'd have to agree about Shuksan, a real stunner of a mountain!
Just shared to some hiking forums i use, hopefully you get some sales.