Hacker News new | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit login
[flagged] Pentagon chief breaks with Trump over using troops for protests (oclc.org)
51 points by samizdis 36 days ago | hide | past | favorite | 21 comments



Let's not make Mr. Esper out to be doing this for any other reason than because of the strong and immediate backlash from the violent street-clearing that occurred in DC. This is the same guy who said to state governors, "I think the sooner that you mass and dominate the battlespace, the quicker this dissipates and we can get back to the right normal." He is no champion of individual rights.


It is reasonable to give him some benefit of the doubt and take him at his word that he made a mistake and, after reflection, considers the rhetoric too intense. A member of his Defense Science Board resigned [0] in the wake of the decision and one of the former Joint Chiefs [1] spoke out against his actions. I hope he is responding to these voices.

Edit: Link update

0. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/02/secretary...

1. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/02/politics/mike-mullen-trump-ch...


I think I was in agreement until the word rhetoric. Friday photo-op may have started with words, but actions that followed removed that label in my mind.

I would love to give Esper some credit. He has a ridiculously tough job on a normal day. And I am not sure I can. It took severe backlash for him to reverse course.

Granted, in this administration, it is probably a good way to be fired.

edit. changed last sentence


Whats with the weird oclc.org domain? I assume it’s used to skip the paywall but haven’t seen it before and the homepage or the site doesn’t help much.

Original (paywalled probably) article is https://www.ft.com/content/f46c4a73-5358-4319-aed6-d0ec996ee...


Not really sure. I've an FT subscription and often post articles, but I try to do a search and find an alternate link - quite a bit of FT content is syndicated fairly quickly to non-paywalled sites. A few days ago, an FT article that I'd posted and then searched for showed up with the OCLC domain. I've been trying to figure out how it all works, but have failed. If you try to hit "baldwinlib.idm.oclc.org", you get a login page.

Would also like to know more about this - seems likely that many publications are archived via oclc.

Edit to add: Just been comparing ft.com with https://www-ft-com.baldwinlib.idm.oclc.org/ and, at the moment, at least, the content seems to be largely in synch. I daresay that someone will close the loophole soon.


Have a spare loophole - https://www-ft-com.ezproxy.babson.edu/


its a library cooperative, its probably a way for library's to subscribe to content and because of covid19 they aren't requiring library logins


They've disabled upvoting this story in Hacker News (for me), effectively implementing censorship of content. Most of the stories on Hacker News are manipulated by the mods. Here are screenshots from both Firefox and Chrome:

- https://imgur.com/9LrkzxA

- https://imgur.com/Kkyetr5


You upvoted it. The vote arrow goes away when you do that. Note the 'unvote' link in your first screenshot.

Mods didn't touch this submission.


Your browser is broken, I upvoted it just fine.


As far as I can tell I could up vote it.

Of course, I've flagged it instead since it's going to lead to a very low quality discussion.


Doesn’t seem that way to me.


I posted screenshots to show what I see. Tried in multiple browsers. It is only this story, everything else I can upvote.


Your screenshot shows that you have already upvoted this story. Note the "unvote" button.


Uhm. I upvoted it just fine?


I posted screenshots to show what I see. Tried in multiple browsers. It is only this story, everything else I can upvote.


I see no such evidence.


I posted screenshots to show what I see. Tried in multiple browsers. It is only this story, everything else I can upvote.


The first screenshot you posted shows that you've already upvoted it. That is why there's an 'upvote' below the title and between the '36 minutes ago' and 'flag' links.


Try a different browser perhaps?


I posted screenshots to show what I see. Tried in multiple browsers. It is only this story, everything else I can upvote.




Guidelines | FAQ | Support | API | Security | Lists | Bookmarklet | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: