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I’m a little surprised that there aren’t any mentions of Obsidian, while there are at least two mentions of Roam. To all Roam lovers, and to all intellectuals in general, I’d recommend you to check out Obsidian [1] from the makers of Dynalist.

It’s also a tool made mainly for Zettelkasten, but it is offline and local by default. It’s not an outliner like Roam, but rather a free-form text editor.

I feel that Obsidian’s values align more closely with the values of a general HN reader. For example, the files (Zettels?) are plain markdown files, so the portability is much higher than what is the case with Roam (which is online only, and your data is somewhere in a database in a proprietary format).

Another example would be the support for plugins, which are first-class citizens (although the API is yet undocumented) — many of the core features are implemented as plugins and can be turned off.

And there’s a Discord channel where you can discuss with the devs, which are very responsive — so much so that I’m surprised they can rollout new features so quickly (at least one feature update per week, from my limited experience with Obsidian).

(Not affiliated in any way, just a happy user. I copied most of this comment from another comment of mine)

[1]: https://obsidian.md/






  I’m a little surprised that there aren’t any mentions of Obsidian, while there are at least two mentions of Roam. To all Roam lovers, and to all intellectuals in general, I’d recommend you to check out Obsidian [1] from the makers of Dynalist.

  It’s also a tool made mainly for Zettelkasten
Just so you know, I consider myself probably a fairly typical HN user. Got my own little daily tech concerns, but keep a toe in the water of the larger zeitgeist. I have no idea what anything you just said means. You could be talking about brands of car or my little ponies for all I know. Googling it - seems it's something to do with notes?

Just remember that not everyone is in your little concern-bubble, and one or two explanatory sentences would be very welcome.


I wrote an article about Luhmann's Zettelkasten if you are interested: https://emvi.com/blog/luhmanns-zettelkasten-a-productivity-t...

I had to stop somewhere with the explanations. I was mainly addressing people already familiar with Roam, and also decided that Zettelkasten as a term is quite easily googleable. It’s true I could have slipped a few words there, along the lines of “...which is a note-taking technique” — I’ll make sure to do that next time.

the other thing is https://roamresearch.com/

It's a text based wiki or outliner (collapsible text) thought a step further, with auto backlinks etc.

Feels to me like a weaker org-mode, online with better cross-links/embeds (something that is indeed uncool in org. things can't live in two places at once)


There is org-roam, and it's getting better by the day: https://github.com/org-roam/org-roam

Yea, have to try that some time.

I'll need to switch from one biiiig file to multiple than though. I think my biggest hindrance is setting up the refile targeting :)


Gonna check this out, seems very useful!



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