I was panicking
I was still receiving phone notifications despite not being to log into the app. I could see that messages were being sent and received but couldn't access my account. I believe that others are being scammed using my account
I quickly changed all other passwords and contacted OKC immediately. It's been a week now with no response. OKC have lost a paying customer for life
Same with instagram. If you don't have 2fa on. I've had my account taken over and couldn't believe it. Utterly pathetic levels of security
That is a by far and away a tiny, minuscule, edge case
OKCupid specifically requires your real name which is beyond stupid for a dating site.
Anyone whose done online dating knows about stalkers and the need to hide your identity but these guys want real names.
As for Grindr we’ll isnt that owned by China? What better place to entrust your most compromising personal information, and what better long term investment if you want compromising information that one day in the distant future might be to your advantage.
And then more than a month later she started with more Cheaterville posts, this time posted as his full name https://www.ryanmercer.com/ryansthoughts/2012/3/15/aimeexx1-...
Now, I wonder if perhaps staff/owners of Cheaterville weren't using dating sites to attempt to find people to blackmail. IIRC the site would remove any posts about you for a hefty fee.
I was an early adopter of OkCupid, in fact long before they were acquired I was actually a volunteer moderator. It was interest in the early days because you could tag stuff "I like [[Metallica]], I read a lot of [[science fiction]], and I like to eat [[pizza]] before going to [[SCA]] fighter practice" and you could find people with similar interests that way, which was cool. I actually met some really cool women and am still friends with a couple of them. But then it started going downhill pretty quickly once they were purchased by the Match.com folks. Lots of dumb changes, removal of long-standing features, drastic increase in spam messages from people hundreds (or thousands) of miles away, requiring real names etc.
Didn't surprise me.
Every single time I'd pay for a Match.com account (over multiple years, as recently as last year), within a day of my subscription someone would message me. I'd always, like a sucker, pay again and reply and nothing... or they'd reply once or twice with very basic replies and stop. Now, I'm not saying they're scamming users to get them to pay for another month but... sure feels like it.
I anecdotally noticed a massive increase in spam/fake accounts when the same company bought Tinder too.
I can see why having "screen names" is good and why having "Jenny S from NYC" beats "picture of Jennifer Smith, 32 acadia Avenue Queens" on the site profile but if it's crime we worry about, it's police we need.
I would be interested in knowing if I am deaf to a much larger problem than I am aware of.
Yeah I still would be upset if my landlord didn’t fix the lock on my door.
Also, is stalking actually a crime now? When does "wanting to talk to someone" become a crime? Are recruiters stalking me on LinkedIn? What if they keep sending me emails and I keep not replying?
I think the bar for putting people in jail should be much higher than that.
I think the bar for putting people in jail for the above is just right, might even be too low.
Stalking has a crime in all of the US states for 15 years, and has been a crime in most for longer than that.
If you are repeatedly contacting or surveilling someone, despite being told to stop, and are making them feel unsafe or intimidated, then you are probably violating the laws against stalking.
Edit: I think you could view them only if you both gave answers to the same question.
Correct, but it would show you the questions you hadn't answered and let you answer them right then and there to see their response, meaning a couple of clicks. Scripting that for mining would have been trivial via the website.
Don’t you remember this? https://www.vox.com/2016/5/12/11666116/70000-okcupid-users-d...
OKC has been problematic for years now.
Twitter threads: https://twitter.com/finnmyrstad/status/1216988370632695809 https://twitter.com/maxschrems/status/1216954710248259585
Then it's subscription based, which has been shown to be a hard market to work in. Plus any company that gets paid via subscription has an incentive to keep users on the site and paying money -- which, if a dating app works, won't do. Like, if the app is effective then people will find a partner and stop using it, ending their subscription and cutting costs.
> (especially the ones which have vulnerable groups like Grindr in this case)
I fail to see how their privacy is different from anyone elses. Or how their kinks are any less or more destructive than others. Grindr is already banned in Iran, Turkey, and Saudi anyway
I understand and agree with the point about subscriptions leading to an incentive to keep users on the app. But this is also true for ads supported ones. Dating apps have conflicting goals with user goals. That's why Tinder grosses so much money - because it's a mostly hookup app where quantity matters. So people keep coming back to the app and Tinder keeps making more money.
I do think if the data for the vulnerable groups falls in the wrong hands, it can destroy people's lives. Imagine an international student from Iran visiting US and having a profile on Grindr. If this info somehow gets leaked back home, his life is in danger next time they visit back home. This also has higher chances of being used as blackmail material by someone else.
This is one of the cases which the 2 Nigerian brothers have against Jussie Smollett's lawyers - the lawyers had made a claim that the brothers were attracted to Jussie. The brothers make the claim it's not true and that also puts their life in risk when they visit back home.
- OS platform with version
- Prefered language
- Career network
- Current connection (3g/Wifi).
- Exact position (altitude/latitude/longitude)
- Sexual orientation
- Twitter ID and Facebook ID (as long as the app can have access to it).
But all of this over HTTP, not HTTPS!
Given the context, when I first read this I was like wow! Advertisers want to know your sexual position? Then, I saw lat, lon and then realized that either way shouldn't surprise me.
I've used dating sites in the past, but more recently I learned that it's much more fun, and works much better, to engage in real-life activities that get me around people I don't know, then ask interesting people out directly.
> The report, “Out of Control: How Consumers Are Exploited by the Online Advertising Industry,”
While it seems a bit hyperbolic, its really not.
Out of interest, are there any restrictions/regulations on which parties can actually purchase that information ?
I could see hate groups taking aim. Then who is at fault ?
Seriously it is probably not restricted to dating sites, but information about sexual orientation and preference is especially worth it to marketeers. Not just products but also media companies that might like to know how to cater to specific audiences and their needs.
Alas, this is easily 'de-anonymised' and so any privacy gains would be quickly lost:
The big data economy and privacy are mutually exclusive.
A ban costs politicans money to enforce.
A tax gives politicans more money when enforced.
Draw your own conclusions.
For example, the ban on marijuana has yielded tremendous returns for politicians and their associates in the police equipment and prison businesses.
Edit: My point is that existing businesses must not be exempt from new legislation, nor compensated under investor protection. Conversely, whether something should be allowed or not must not be based on the number of succesful businesses in that sector.
The GDPR allows you to collect profile information for the purposes of performing a service etc.
However, in generic terms. Financial transactions are audited by enforcing the use of a ledger, with rules for how all transactions must be entered into the ledger.
Auditing data transactions could be implemented in a similar fashion, by demanding that all data usage is entered into a ledger, and that evidence is produced that the rules are followed. It could be similar to what EU is doing this with GDPR. GDPR can be audited and it is purely related to what is being done with data. Modelling a "data usage" legislation on this type of existing data legislation could be possible.
Precisely what would be taxed is perhaps not the core of my message. However, taxes have side effects: companies wants to minimize taxes. If society would like to minimize the use of personal data, a tax on personal data use would have such an effect. Unprofitable use of personal data would decrease.
It's whether they ought to pay and get away with not doing do (due to lack of oversight), or if they are allowed not to pay.
Secondly, many companies are getting to mega valuations with free apps, via debt.
...which are probably collecting your data.
Article discusses european privacy laws as they relate to romantic/sexual preferences/arrangements that stopped being taboo long ago. At the same time, most european countries have no strong protection of political free speech, so you can be fined or jailed for unpopular opinions--which in many cases, tech companies are required to report.
And even in the US, where we do have constitutional protections, if my helicopter vid in the grinder profile leaks, it's like, "oh gee, i sure hope mom doesn't see" whereas, if the bossman finds out that i'm boycotting sabra hummus on FB, i lose my damn job.
edit: I like privacy, but thanks to technology, now it's a losing battle. A better arrangement would be if we just didn't exploit/destroy people for any leakages/revelations about their inner lives.