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In Russia, hypersonic rivalry feeds suspicions and arrests (sciencemag.org)
15 points by peter_d_sherman 9 days ago | hide | past | web | favorite | 6 comments

TSNIIMASH is one of Russia's primary space research bureaus. If someone "transmitted their research findings" about hypersonic rockets out of e.g. Lockheed or Boeing, their ass would be in prison in the US, too, under ITAR.

Although, of course, there's a complication to this picture. At least in the US scientists are paid pretty well. In Russia that's not the case, scientists are paid peanuts, and working outside their "main" job is a matter of survival.

Case in point, their job board: http://www.tsniimash.ru/career/careers/competitive_vacancies.... The salaries are listed in rubles. 60000RUR ($977.40) per month is pretty laughable in Moscow.

Yikes, I know people teaching middle schoolers English for a heck of a lot more money.

Please, read the article before posting your usual whataboutism:

"As project coordinator for TsNIIMash, Kudryavtsev transmitted research findings to the foreign partners. The reports were approved by the military's Federal Service for Technical and Export Control, says Kudryavtsev's attorney, Ivan Pavlov, a prominent human rights lawyer.

Herman Deconinck, who handles the von Karman Institute's foreign relations, notes that all references in the Russian reports had been published in the open literature."

> Please, read the article before posting your usual whataboutism

That sort of swipe breaks the HN guidelines and is not allowed here. Would you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are?

Also, please keep canned arguments like "whatboutism" off HN. They're a form of labeling, which the site guidelines refers to as "calling names", rather than actually making an argument. That one in particular (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...).

Be that as it may, the dude worked on _secret_ stuff as of late. The way access to secrets is structured in Russia, there's no way he wouldn't know it's secret. You can't take any materials out of the secure facility, for one thing. All computers are airgapped as well. He'd have to smuggle it out if it was recent. And even being seen near anyone foreign would be a no-no.

I had access to government secrets (probably similar level to his) when I was a student. I had to leave my notes in a secure facility within the university. I could not bring in any notes, either. If I wanted to read my notes, I could only do so at that secure facility. No copying, partial or otherwise, was allowed. It was explained to me that if I were to try to circumvent any of these measures, I'd be in trouble.

“FSB's decision to classify the work came 5 years after the EU project ended. The “absolutely illicit retroactive approach … increases the vulnerability” of Russian scientists working in areas that might have military or other sensitive applications, says Boris Altshuler, a theoretical physicist and human rights activist at the Russian Academy of Sciences's P.N. Lebedev Physical Institute.”


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