In your typical "big Asian city", you have night markets, restaurants, shopping areas, etc. that all "come alive", so to speak, at night. Young, old, families, etc. are all welcome and expected. Yes, there are bars, of course, but they aren't the sole focus of "nightlife."
In the US the only things open at night seem to be bars that cater to single adults, and anyone who wants to do anything but social drinking in crowded bars have few options.
But ah, if you want to get a couple of beers, we've got you covered. You can literally find a place to drink 24/7. Which is nice, I like beer, but I feel like it's silly to only have that option.
Cities in at least North Western Europe that have the size of something like Hong Kong are just as 24x7 as Hong Kong, and the same for the major US cities.
The library here for example is open 24x7, cinemas usually until something like 2am etc. But in smaller cities everything is closed much earlier.
I think it is also different as well because of the climate. HK but definitely a city like Bangkok are a lot warmer and the warmth is more 24/7. In south of Spain or PT it is still warm and you can sit on the terras during the day now, but once the sun leaves it gets quite uncomfortably cold. Bangkok does not have that, so night is actually nice and comfortable to walk around it, shop, get streetfood etc.
Another difference is regulations and hygiene. In Cambodia and Thailand, even in villages you can get up 3 am and wake up someone in a stall (of which there are 20+ in a row, so you can pick) (sleeping in a hammock) to cook you food, get you a beer etc; you cannot do that in the EU.
It takes 7 generations for that kind of stuff to clear out I've heard.
And if its slavery, then why are European cities the same way?
You have overlooked the third and fourth option: intergenerational poverty and drug laws.
The actual number is probably higher, but doesn't compare to the USA with 24 million drug abusers out of a population of 331 million or 7.25%. https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/nationwide-...
Where are you getting your information from that it is a problem in Hong Kong?
In the west we do have movie theaters, cafes, but yeah, lots of bars
Cafes aren’t typically open late at all. And sure movie theaters are open but not really what I’m thinking about when I think of nightlife...
But you're right that it's mostly cultural, and I wish we in the west had a culture of keeping family activities open outside of normal business hours.
nightlife is still very much optimized for single adults who like to drink here, and just pointing out in Asia you have districts that only come alive at night and have a lot of things to do that don’t involve drinking at a bar.
Reading at a bar is like a “happy path” in some ways...people want other alternatives than just standing around a loud crowded bar on a weekend.
The reason is cultural is because the weather forces you to do things at afternoon/night when it has cooled down.
I definitely believe that the culture has been influenced by the weather so ultimate it's the weather.
You can wander the steets alone at 3am and still feel completely safe. It’s an extremely strange feeling when you’ve lived in more dangerous cities.
Even if it was a larger percentage, with how dense Asian cities are, there would still be millions of people unaffected.
As discussed elsewhere in this thread, at night bars are often the only comfortable place open. Meanwhile hotel rooms can get depressing and, for people who drink, having a drink alongside a book can be incredibly relaxing. I also think we underestimate the value for introverted people of being out in a public setting, even in an asocial way.
Good on this group for using a bit of social engineering to help push this idea - wishing them all of the success in the world!
Fantasy football/baseball drafts, also great. Team meetings. You name it. It's a social meeting space.
My fav was about 2005 someone gave me shit for using my laptop at the bar during Sunday NFL day, because that wasn't that normal yet. I was a regular so others looked at him wierd. About 10 minutes later dude walks back up to me and asks if he can change his fantasy. "Didn't you just give me shit?". He apologized and bought me my standard 2 long islands for sunday.
Now a days, kindles or laptops at a bar is a good way to relax. I hate chilling in hotel rooms.
The whole article could be summarized as “some bars are offering a Time Slot for readers in the evenings as a selling claim and they advertise it in HN where supposedly are many people in the same geographical area where such establishments are located. They also believe to have invented fire because it is fashionable to be innovator in the SF/SV/HN culture.”
This brings back fond and sad memories...
Plus depending on where you're at, it's more likely that a bar is going to be open than your local public library. At least that's true for where I'm at.
But it doesn’t - though I’ve heard good things about the food, I’ve never actually been in...
So this kind of thing seems like a nice idea in that it gives people more avenues for healthy behavior, while possibly making it more exciting.
Actually, is there something for reading together on your computer or phone? KindleSync?
See what virtual groups are reading, join, socialize and discuss online with integration to existing online food delivery services.
It's certainly a problem, but it's one of the (many) that no one wants to address and instead continually ignore.
On this article though, my spouse and I aren't into drinking but enjoy being out late so we find going to boba cafes to be ideal. The ones around us are open until 11pm, serve snacks & drinks and provide wifi. It even makes us feel young and hip because most of the patrons are high school and college kids who can't drink yet and spend time on their laptops too.
One no apostrophe(or if Nordstrom's Rack then apostrophe after the s). Two, I have never in my life been in a Nordstrom that had a bar, where are these?
Edit: Sorry for the grammar stuff, I just passed TOEFL.
Congratulations for passing that!
It is difficult to know when to offer a spelling or grammar correction and when to just let it go. Especially if you are new to the language and excited about what you have learned. Will you be helping someone who isn't sure of the right way to spell it, or was it just a simple typoe?
After all, pretty much every native English speaker has trouble with where to put the apostrophe's.
So my friend, welcome to our wild and funny and inconsistent language that we call "English" but draws from pretty much every other language in the world and inherits all of their quirks.
p.s. I also want to know which Nordstrom store has a bar!
 "Test of English as a Foreign Language (TOEFL /ˈtoʊfəl/ TOH-fəl) is a standardized test to measure the English language ability of non-native speakers wishing to enroll in English-speaking universities."
Well, strictly speaking, that may not quite be the case, eh?
> You didn't need to make such a condescending comment.
Now you have me at a disadvantage. I honestly did not mean any condescension. I meant the comment as light-hearted, humorous, and supportive advice. The mention of "typoe" and "apostrophe's" was in that spirit: even those of us who grew up speaking English often get it wrong.
The wonderful thing about English is that even when you do get the "rules" wrong, it may still be cool as long as people understand what you meant.
If I said something that came across as condescending or mean-spirited, could you help me and share the specifics, so I can do better next time? Thanks!
I didn't find anything in their comment condescending, it seemed quite helpful.
My fingers are larger than average so it helps more than it hurts, for now.
What's next? Attend city council meetings just to play sudoku in large groups?
What happens when someone hit them up "hey, what are you reading ?"
Anyway, it's only an hour or a chapter long.
Isn't book club an American thing though ? Never heard of one in Europe.
They probably reply, and depending on their mood, either engage in conversation or politely hint that they would like to keep reading. What normal people do in those situations.
I think some commenters misunderstand what these people are doing.
Nowhere in the article or the club's web site is any hint of expectation of silence and privacy. They won't go from table to table and ask the other patrons to please be quiet.
It wouldn't be my thing, but hey, I used to go to a regular Friday evening bar 'blitz chess' session in Pittsburgh with a bunch of Russians who would get progressively more blitzed as the night progressed. As you can imagine this was viewed as a bit peculiar by fellow revelers. Though unlike the reading club, we were not... exactly... quiet.
Not really. They're quite popular in the UK; my village has one that meets once a fortnight or so.
I'm in Scotland so it'll not be long before we're independent and back again.
Seems quite social to me.