This also looks like it has (viable?) plan for monetising: branded pages for company accounts.
 It might if dropbox was a more lean operation, but it isn't.
The postal system solved this problem ages ago, you charge the sender postage. Done.
I may be misunderstanding your question, but it seems to me that this is literally the whole point of the service. Dropbox is a folder that syncs. You change something on one device (one write), it updates everywhere (multiple reads).
They do have some tricks to lower their bandwidth usage. AFAIR, if multiple devices are in the same LAN, only one gets synced with the cloud, and the rest sync to that one. Also, they have (recently introduced) a sync option, in which fake files are visible in your file system, but no actual contents get put on the drive until you try to open them.
I thought that was a first in the earliest of versions and was one of my favorite. At some point they removed it and made you choose which folders to sync. At which point I abandoned using it. So maybe they are reintroducing it or I am misremembering something.
(I think a good Linux analogy would be FUSE, things like sshfs.)
Nope, just confirmed again. The only way around it is to go with a business account, which even the cheapest option costs 2x the price of just you and your wife both having Plus accounts of your own.
It's a solution not without compromise in terms of management and accounting but does achieve an outcome that would fit the apparent need.
"Differential sync brings the ability to sync only the parts of large files that have changed, not the entire file. This makes the file synchronization process faster for these files. Currently OneDrive supports differential sync for Office 2016 files. Later this year, Microsoft will bring the ability to leverage differential sync to all file types stored in OneDrive and SharePoint."
Edit: It went live on November 4th 2019:
"To complement these large uploads, we announced availability of differential sync for PC and Mac, bringing the ability to sync only the parts of large files that have changed, not the entire file."
OneDrive was inferior, no doubt, but good enough. And will only become better.
More importantly, I cannot imagine anyone building better integration with Office (live editing) than the actual Office company.
After working with their stuff I totally can :)
Joke aside, MS is doing a great job commoditizing the space around Office 365 with Teams and OneDrive. I think DropBox and Slack are feeling a lot of pressure right now.
I'll hold my breath. Dropbox basically had sync across all major OS's ready to work very early in its life (10 years ago?). The fact that OneDrive and Box's desktop sync performs so poorly leads me to believe this is not where their engineering effort is and nor will it anytime soon (it's probably more on the back-end admin for enterprise clients).
My company currently does this currently, as we wait for a more seamless system to be set up. So it does a write every minute of the day to a Dropbox sync folder. Which only syncs up once every few minutes. So essentially I do miss a few minutes in a day, but since it's just a human consuming the data, I don't mind.
It's also the only cloud storage provider that allows you to have files-on-demand feature on free tier account on Mac OS. Others (Dropbox and Google Drive) only enable it at on Terabyte plans.
The protocol is actually available for any cloud storage vendor to work with: https://wopi.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
Landing page: https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/office/cloud-storage-p...
(1) exception: you can have one personal and one business account
First run (installation): `HOME=/path/to/client-specific/home/folder dropbox start -i`
Subsequent runs: `HOME=/path/to/client-specific/home/folder /path/to/client-specific/home/folder/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd start -i`
Edit: Each "home directory" here can be any folder; you're essentially presenting a fake home directory to each Dropbox process. The dropbox processes can run under the same user.
Edit: I use Google Drive because of Google docs. sigh
I've moved to the US after that, but I didn't bother changing the location on the MS account.
I want to be able to pull/push/ls directories at a minimum.
Dropbox surely had its share of problems but in my experience with the 400 GB archive that I have is that Dropbox was the only one with a decent client that actually works.
In general you get what you pay for and €10 per month doesn't break the bank.
I hope they'll survive because I don't think I can find a good replacement.
ps: I really wish HN supported basic markdown so we can make bullet lists and other simple formatting controls, nothing wild like citation/footnote support just the top 5-10 markups. Trying to make a list of URLs to share looks like ass here.
It depends on a central relay server but the planned Tor hidden service feature could change everything.
The best markup is no markup, or at least as minimal as possible
I used to run a transfer service myself but it wasn't up to scratch with the competition and it was costing me money so I decided to aggregate them instead.
https://transfer.sh website also support Drag'n'Drop for upload, so technical knowledge of command line tools NOT "required", BUT "recommended".
I just curios when found that MediaFire service not added in this list yet ;)
I definitely don't have them all!
What I most want is a way to force a newline without starting a new paragraph.
I can't see any reason to switch.
It's massively useful when you want to send a track (which can often run into hundreds of MB even after compression) to another producer or audio engineer
E.g. if a marketing firm would like to send over a company presentation video to a client, perhaps that artifact isn’t sensitive at all. It all depends on the specific circumstances, IMHO.
They all follow the same pattern: introduce a paid-for product, tell you a bit about it, then give you a link to try it for free - OK, but then how much is it actually going to cost!!
Sorry for the rant, but there are just so many landing pages using this dark pattern, and I'm absolutely sick of it.
 My aunt does not know who dropbox is or what they do. My accountant might not either.
Basic (free): 100MB
Business Standard: 2GB
Business Advanced, Enterprise, or Education: 100GB
Give me the free plan and charge me $12 / year / device to unlock additional devices. I want to use it on my desktop, iPad, phone, and laptop.
OneDrive is interesting but Dropbox is a far more common datastore for apps on my phone and iPad.
Meanwhile the cheapest Google Drive plan (100 GB) is €20 per year, cheapest iCloud plan (50 GB) is €12 per year and the chepest OneDrive plan (100 GB) is €24 per year. There's also Nextcloud, which you can host yourself or pay someone like Hetzner to host you an instance (€43 per year for 100 GB).
I don't think the value proposition of the personal Dropbox plan is actually that good compared to really any of the competitors. Most individual Dropbox users probably don't need 2 TB storage or any of the other fancy features being advertised. I think I'm personally under 20 GB after all these years of Dropbox usage.
I use both and they both have their users.
I'll likely use a spare 1TB USB hard drive as data dir and backup regularly, i'm unlikely to use more space than that - or otherwise just host the whole thing on AWS instead of at home.
It's sad that we don't have a better way to send files to other people than to create a Dropbox account, upload files, then send a link over email.
I've written https://filemap.xyz/ so people are able to send files and links without having to send URLs, instead you just agree on a common geographical location -- but of course this isn't the best possible solution yet.
That said, it's an interesting and novel approach.
(As a Swiss, I love the sound of it. But need to figure out what their model is, otherwise surely if I'm not the customer, I'm the product)
Transfers auto-expire after a week and links invalidate so it's maintenance is minimal for the normal user.
Why not MiDrive Transfer. https://transfer.midrive.io
Why not MiDrive Transfer? I haven't heard of it and don't know how reputable it is. And is it in beta? So it could be buggy?
I'd like to see some numbers, though.
Do you routinely monitor a large portion of file sharing that goes on in the world? Sorry, but this is just a weird (but common) way to make a claim that [something in the tech world] is not used...
I personally use Firefox Send all the time. Works very well and I trust it to do the job.
I routinely receive assistance requests for expired links that lead to data loss (as in at least once a week) during work hours and assistance requests like "how to upload a folder of files, not just that file" or "where do I put the email ?" or "why are the files gone ? I just sent the link again but my contact says it's not working".
None are about FF send (not for a lack of trying).
> Sorry, but this is just a weird (but common) way to make a claim that [something in the tech world] is not used...
I monitor enough, without having all the variables in the world and the number of TCP packets that went through Firefox send at hand, to form an opinion that goes something like: "Yeah, that FF send thing isn't catching enough users to impact wetransfer usage significantly any time soon or to force Dropbox into releasing their own spin of the thing." Hence my question - that you conveniently cut off - for numbers. It shows that I am ready to change my mind, that my opinion is just... my opinion.
Yeah, people navigate the world with intuition and mushy feelings and opinions. What's weird is that you are surprised by it and feel like pointing it out.
Of course there'll always be people using niche things... doesn't mean it's relevant at large.
Hacking Gameboy ROM in your free time ? Pretty cool. Guess what, that console is still dead.
I don't believe for a moment that you are "sorry".
Sorry, but this is just a weird (but common) way to try to pass for being polite while truly offering a condescending and insincere apology before telling someone that he's wrong.
Do you have numbers to add to the conversation ?
> I personally use Firefox Send all the time. Works very well and I trust it to do the job.
So do I. So big what ?
I've used the main/public send.firefox.com several times for personal use, but I'll probably set up a personal instance on a VM soon.
How many employees in your office ?
- people still losing files in "that send thing"
- storage dedicated to send is shared with the SAN so there is no advantage in the expiring link.
- missing configuration settings (aka we didn't want to fork it for a few switches and maintain it)
We also decided to take the opportunity to educate our users in file management.
is this something new that mozilla is offering?
Dropbox and wetransfer/send don't serve the same needs and don't offer the same experience.
I could see Dropbox getting back into the office with that tool, they have a brand to capitalize on after all, if they drop the mandatory login.
Interestingly, there are signs that they have been working on support for a wider range of file systems: https://itsfoss.com/dropbox-brings-back-linux-filesystem-sup...
Compare it with something else, like Firefox Send, which puts security and privacy front-and-center in its description. https://send.firefox.com/
Why should I trust Dropbox Transfer over Firefox Send?
I’ve personally used it to send CAD files to outside manufacturers/suppliers who are under an NDA.
I’ve really grown to like the service and always wished I could use it for personal stuff so I will definitely be trying this out.
$ 1.99 100GiB
$ 2.99 200GiB
They stopped doing it years ago I think.
Google is actually very privacy councious when it comes to their own properties. Where I agree they fault is with their double click cookie that follows you around the internet
They were fairly up front with it (remember, back in the days Google was a nice trustworthy company or at least that was my impression.)
Plus: Send files up to 2 GB with Dropbox Transfer
Professional: Send files up to 100 GB with Dropbox Transfer, including additional customization options
If you want to transfer a large amount of data (like backups or any big data collection, like a couple of years of RAW photos) via the cloud (e.g. because of NAT and firewalls) it is still better to rent a machine from Linode/Digital Ocean/OVH and use a tool like BT Sync or rsync (simple but low bandwidth).
Don’t you get that from HTTP?
And while I’m sure 100 GB is small for your domain whatever that is, surely you can’t be so unaware to know that this is going to be sufficient for the vast majority of consumers, businesses, and academics?
I don’t think I’ve ever handled a file that was 100 GB and I’m not a non-technical person.
Resumable transfers seem to fail a lot with http. Block level differencing (like dedup) can also make things a lot faster.
Why would I use this service?
They also offer a free 5gb transfer tool: https://transfer.pcloud.com/
The file is encrypted, the urls are expiring, it costs nothing.
What you consider premium, I consider a rip off.
It think they have moderated it gradually and come back to their blue/white/black branding.
Or just use 2 accounts and share the file...