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Oh bill to doctors ‘reimplant ectopic pregnancy’ or face abortion murder charges (theguardian.com)
8 points by jelliclesfarm 5 days ago | hide | past | web | favorite | 10 comments





[..] A bill to ban abortion introduced in the Ohio state legislature requires doctors to “reimplant an ectopic pregnancy” into a woman’s uterus – a procedure that does not exist in medical science – or face charges of “abortion murder”.

This is the second time practising obstetricians and gynecologists have tried to tell the Ohio legislators that the idea is currently medically impossible.[..]


That's crazy, but also off-topic for HN.

Why is it off topic?

You have politicians passing bills for medical procedures that don’t exist.

It is literally a fictional procedure that is being sneakily added to the law and policy before thanksgiving. For the second time in the last three years.

May I ask this out of curiosity? Do you think it is ‘off topic’ because it makes you uncomfortable?

‘Murder charges’ for failure to do the impossible and fictional medical procedures would make me uncomfortable.



yes?

Does it not intrigue you that people are making up fictional medicinal procedures to pass off as law?


Title should be "OH bill...", As it refers to a bill introduced in the US state of Ohio.

Capitalization automatically corrected

Not on my machine. Still showing up as Oh.

This is also complete and total horsefeces. Unfortunately, my opinion wouldn't matter a lark as I'm not an Ohio resident, nor do I know anyone who is.

Let it be a cautionary tale of the folly of uninformed legislators, however.


I am sorry. I should have been clearer.

I wanted to say that my capitalization to ‘OH’ was automatically corrected to ‘Oh’ by HN. I don’t know how to make it right.

An ectopic pregnancy occurs in the Fallopian tubes and cannot be ‘replanted’ in the uterus.

Doctors and gynecologists have made statements that such a procedure doesn’t exist and an ectopic pregnancy is seldom viable. It’s can also be incredibly dangerous for the woman to ‘carry it’.

I don’t understand how this is happening AGAIN. They tried it once before in 2016 much to the bewilderment in the medical community.

The experience is devastating and heartbreaking to women. In this time and age, why is this happening in America?

My heart swells with grief and it feels like it would explode when I hear from women who have to experience any kind of loss. They are not criminals. Their bodies failed them..just like someone with any other illness or disease. They are not ‘hosts’. They are not ‘vessels’.

It’s times like this when I feel the primal stirrings of a hidden sisterhood..all women are ‘me’. If it can happen to one of us, it can happen to any of us. Something turns and wakes up inside me and I feel like I ‘get’ it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/parenting/wp/2017/03/30/... : [..] The definition of ectopic is “in an abnormal place or position.” It affects one to two percent of all pregnancies, still accounts for up to 10 percent of pregnancy-related mortality, and is the most common cause of death in the first trimester. With a tubal pregnancy, even if a heartbeat is detected, there is no chance of viability for an embryo, but there are necessary precautions that could save a mother’s life. Misdiagnoses or a delay in treatment accounts for nearly half of the deaths associated with ectopic pregnancy. A third lab test to check if my numbers were still climbing prompted my doctor to prescribe a chemotherapy drug, methotrexate, to halt further cell division. The decision to terminate my pregnancy wasn’t a decision at all. The injection would protect my right fallopian tube, which could burst and cause extensive internal bleeding. Not only would this drug save my tube, it would safeguard my future fertility, and end a pregnancy that would never yield a baby. [..] On the day my lab tests read non viable, Oklahoma Representative Justin Humphrey submitted a bill, which passed out of a House committee, requiring a woman to obtain a signature from the father of the fetus in order to terminate a pregnancy. Earlier that month, Humphrey called women a “host” for a baby. A Heartbeat Bill vetoed in Ohio three months ago would have prevented the termination of a pregnancy as early as six weeks along. A Personhood Bill, introduced by Congressional Republicans, would protect and grant rights to fertilized eggs, zygotes, embryos, and fetuses as “persons.”

In some cases, ectopic pregnancies have a heartbeat detected by sonogram in the fallopian tube. A bill that protects heartbeats or designates nonviable fertilized eggs as persons blatantly ignores the risk and rights to the heartbeat of the person who’s pregnant. In some cases like mine, there’s no time to waste. Legislature that interferes with a woman’s ability to make decisions about her health cause far more damage to living, breathing women than to the unborn, some of who would never survive otherwise. The methotrexate wasn’t covered by my insurance, so I paid the $48.95 and carried it to the nurse, who then injected it into my hip. I was instructed to flush the toilet twice because of the medicine’s potency and I had a toddler at home who shouldn’t get near it. Within days, my numbers drastically fell and I wouldn’t require further intervention.[..]


It is happening because it is unfortunately the case that there will be repeated attempts to get the same bloody bill passed because the once and done nature of our lawmaking makes this type of behavior desirable. They only have to pass it once, and then heaven and earth must be moved for a repeal to take place.

I'm horrified the women/medical practitioners of Ohio have to even fight this poorly informed piece of legislation; but only they can keep this from happening in that state. Letter to the rep,and a visit to their office if you really want to get the message across.

I know you're raising awareness here, but you may want to take it to a more Ohio centric platform. If I hear about anything like this at a Federal level, a letter to my Reps would most certainly be on the way. Good luck, and godspeed. Hate seeing people having to suffer from terrible lawmaking.




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