"Ha! This is funny. It's poking fun at all these sites that try to reinvent a productivity tool. Wow...yup...they nailed it...yeah this looks hilariously over-complex. Ok, good parody!"
...goes to HN comments...
First comment...joke about the joke. Ha, funny's!
Second comment...yup people laughing at the joke...
10th comment...wait...um...someone said there was a different landing page. Ok, that's weird, this one seems less like satire.
15th comment...wait wait...I think this might be...a real product?
...Reads Medium post...goes back to HN comments....re-reads landing page.
"Ok..wait. This is actually a real product. They just spent 5 minutes making me think they were mocking other products with their fake over-complex screens...but....this...is....real?"
And now I just posted this. I think it's time for Thanksgiving vacation to start.
> First version of Whiteboard is here. So far you can only create Tree component to see hierarchies. Well, we had to start with something and will add more components based on your feedback.
They didn't just sugar-coat that self-promotion with forced jokes (looking at you, Slack).
They first designed their voice — subtly self-deprecating, but from a place of struggling to one's best, without forced jokes (even though it's totally intentionally funny).
This is brilliant.
> So. The only thing that holds Fibery 1.0 release is slow accounts registration. Currently we can handle 2-3 accounts creation per minute...
> Not really. We also setup the new cluster for every account. Manually.
This should come with a trigger warning.
Wonderful job. Stellar.
Single data point, but sure it’s frequent. Businesses need a breath of fresh air or something like that, you know. Old methods don’t work.
It’s burdensomely complex on desktop. It’s impossibly complex on mobile. But mobile productivity is irresistible, so the troublesome processes get reworked and refined.
I predicted this 1 year ago, despite the nay-sayers. The way things are going (and you can call me crazy) but I truly believe the internet is going to change the way we do business.
"but I truly believe the internet is going to change the way we do business."
And it's a mistake, IMHO. Eases the erasure between work/private life by enabling the phone/tablet as another work tool. And divests resources from a better desktop experience.
I have a 25 year old nephew. He literally attempts to do everything on his iphone. I keep telling him I have a handful of decent mid range gamer tower's collecting dust, take one so you can actually do normal stuff on it when you need to write a form letter, or save some documents or play games on it?
He always just tells me, "Nope, I'm good."
Looks very promising, even a kindergarten resident may run a business with that. Should suggest it at the next hangout as our main development cycle.
* /s-like is not easy to feel in text, I know, but it is not there because the story is real and expressed as it is. That seems ubiquitous, as I hear more and more demand. Also, this entire subthread may be > 80% real-life satire, can’t tell for sure.
It does exactly what you are talking about but with only one copy of Chrome.
Lots of companies in this business make reasonably easy to use mobile interfaces - so if some company like this chooses not to support mobile, it's a non-starter for me.
My experience is that for productivity software that lives in a browser, there's absolutely no point in a mobile version. Just serve up the desktop version and make sure the user can zoom in on the portion they need to interact with, and perform all actions necessary with clicks.
Phones are just for consumers and commuters, workers need desktops.
I'm not going to lie, just from what they have on their several landing pages it looks like a cool project. Bookmarking for future reference and to check if they're still around in 5 years.
Found this one particularly charming. First time I've ever been pleasantly surprised by a mouse-over-background-effect.
Kinda neat hovering the mouse around and watching the little "." move the white part. Unfortunately, they cost me some extra work. I began to realize how many times I have sneezed with the laptop on my lap without cleaning the screen ... I kept seeing dots that weren't there and had to break out the wipes.
Product: Fibery — SaaS B2B (SMB) work management platform
Stage: Private Beta
Launch: Q4 2019 (public)
Development: 31 months
Leads/month: 500 → 380
Total Accounts: 490 → 520
Active Accounts: 15 → 20
Team size: 10
Burn rate: ~$40K/month
It boggles my mind to think people can burn $40K a month before having an understanding of whether what they built has product market fit.
I literally spent maybe a total of $5000 building and launching my product (+ my time, arguably that's a hidden cost but if you're a software engineer founder, that's also a major asset for you) and with 70 accounts we're getting 2-3 feedback and suggestion emails a day and iterating to please our customers and find PMF before I consider taking any investor money or hiring anyone.
Also their actual marketing page sucks. They don't have a particular differentiator from similar products, I don't really understand what their app does... Blargh. :/
Can I ask what stack? What does the production infrastructure look like? How many years of experience you have? And was it 2 months full-time or the equivalent of or just 2 months calendar time hacking nights and weekends?
I swear some people are really, really fast builders. I'm trying to improve my speed and I keep coming back to the answer of keep it as simple as possible and study your stack to know it backwards.
But for example
> "It only gets worse from here. It's not just the creator who suffers, but everyone else too."
Funny but maybe a bit too literal. That's when the page turned into complete satire to me and I had to come to the comments section on HN to realize that they actually had a product offering.
That's the worst feeling.
Their intent is to get you to convert, but instead of giving the usual flowery bullshit, they make you laugh.
Fine, I'll try it.
I think they've hit that point.
This page could be worse at conversion but wins by going viral.
This is a real product, but marketed by Seinfeld's script writer?
I mean parts of the real product are what I want / build from sphinx spare parts - and I cannot work out now if those features are worthwhile or dumb.
I am very confused
Check out https://fibery.io/freedom, https://fibery.io/connect, and https://fibery.io/build
 Actually, I thought it was clever advertising by Atlassian -- and I actually started feeling cynical about the whole thing (I'm not a huge fan of their products but theirs are among the tools we use where I work).
I wish them all the best! Hope people find it worthwhile to invest some time in learning the product (it will definitely be somewhat necessary)
Looks quite promising although no mobile is a tough pill to swallow.
I could go on but just an interesting side thought: people who design these should get a special title - Meta PM? Seems like you have to meet a very high bar of minimum stuff “everyone” has, at about the same price, while still having some degree of Jobs-ian stubbornness because you will NEVER satisfy everyone
I'm not sure what to think, especially considering this is a legitimate product.
Well, sure, but that doesn't mean it's too late to start doing that now?
I really try to like the Atlassian tools that we have, but they just make it so damn hard. I often wonder if the people at Atlassian use those tools themselves, because if so, why don't they fix the obvious issues. Just today, maybe not the most obvious issue, perhaps, Bitbucket decided to execute the "master" pipeline for a build that clearly wasn't off the "master" branch, thus pushing unmerged code into the Staging environment. Nice trick, Atlassian!
Is this open source? (I guess not, but still any thoughts/plans? AGPL? Mongo/Redis-like anti-AWS license?)
GitLab has issues. I mean the feature not the bugs. Is Fibery oriented at code based projects?
Can I model a CRM flow with it? (I don't know what's the "correct" answer to this, it's just something that comes to mind sometimes.)
2. Fibery is closed source.
3. We try to keep Fibery a broad product and so far we think our competitors are Notion, Coda and Airtable. Not Gitlab.
4. Yes, you can. Note that Fibery has no automations so far (only Zapier and API), it means some cases will be hard to have. Like email communication via Fibery with automatic linkage of all messages to some Account. You can check more info here https://help.fibery.io/en/collections/1831852-map-your-proce...
In the tool the modals could really use a X button to close the modal, the 2 or 3 seconds i second guessed where to click each time was annoying. It would be cool to discover if asana had some of these features all of a sudden but i think putting so many features front and center is going to hurt your adoption. Slack for instances can be easily underused as simply a chat application, later on the tech guy shows up and starts dropping in chat bots and cool helpers and what not. The relationship stuff is pretty cool i hope i dig more into this stuff later.
Also are you guys planning on expanding the signup options beyond google/microsoft? it was easy for me to signup just curious how much of a roadblock that is to the rest of the internet.
Email signup is in near plans, it was just much easier to start with Google/Microsoft signup to not be responsible for passwords.
There's just always a reason not to - if I tidy up I'll be happier and focus better; if I build that desk I've been meaning to first, I'll be more productive; if I cook, food's sorted for a bit; if I get an indoor bicycle trainer I'll be able to take an energising break between work (from home) and my own projects; etc. ad nauseaum. Or perhaps ob nauseam.
It appears to round-robin on page load of https://fibery.io/
The stickiness and success could make this a mini-trend which dies out quickly, comes back five years from now, and then lives on forever as paradoxically ironic.
Hard to say why but something resonates with me. Maybe it is that I love working in a desktop environment (KDE) that people love to trash lime this yet is really comfortable for me.
Or maybe I'm just so fed up with landing pages and this was just different.
Maybe a bit too much? The entire SaaS industry will have to come up with new, better BS to sell now!
* "Yet Another Collaboration Tool" or
But that really doesn't convey the content very well.
For reference, the original title was: “A brutally honest landing page.”