Like tabs so many years ago, it's the kind of feature that seems obvious in retrospect. I can't think of a hard technical reason why we couldn't have had container tabs a long time ago. I hope mobile and desktop OSes will one day implement the same feature for apps/programs.
Whoever was involved in coming up with the idea and with implementing it, thank you!
Beyond that - for container users I recently started using "Temporary Containers"  and it's an awesome use case for disposable containers where no browser interaction is associated. It's a fantastic use of containers.
It seems like containers are a powerful concept with multiple different uses, but the UX for each of those uses would need to be different and at the moment it’s not optimised for any of them. Maybe there are extensions that can fix this for specific use cases but when I looked it seemed hard to work out which ones I’d want.
You describe exactly what I would want and expect.
I feel like this is the point. It’s not really clear how to best use containers to protect your privacy; it feels like you have to understand a lot about how the web works and how Firefox works.
Do you think private browsing sessions are also unclear/have unintuitive UX? It seems like firefox containers are just private browsing sessions that you can close and re-open.
If your point is that resist-fingerprinting would be a sane default, I agree. But Mozilla insists that most firefox users would be too confused by a few websites breaking because of it.
It's much friendlier than building your own containers, since most of the hard work and decisions have been made by the developers of the Facebook Container add-on.
You should definitely install the Facebook Container if you have a Facebook account, it traps that neatly inside a box. These days it can even be taught about any sites you use Facebook to authenticate with (this isn't a good idea but whatever) to bring them inside the container while everything else stays outside.
Nevertheless once you've got used to it, it becomes an essential feature. Another reason to be thankful for Firefox's existence.
Also, I really wish you would be able to specify which container you want in the Home button when using multiple urls for your default tabs.
Here is the github issue that tracks container support on Firefox Preview: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/1481
- Refresh requires two clicks instead of the now-standard pull down (like Chrome)
- Text resizing is _all_ _over_ _the_ _place_. I go to Reddit and the text shrinks down to size 3 or something. There is no clear way to make any adjustment whatsoever. Compare to Chrome/Chrome-clone Brave's very easy text resizing.
Why do I love firefox on android?
- Adblocking adblocking adblocking. Get rid of the absolutely garbage ad experiences that clutter up the majority of .com sites
- Zoom is easy versus other browsers
Edit: https://venturebeat.com/2019/06/27/mozilla-geckoview-firefox... is an article on this. It says Firefox Focus is being replaced. But Focus was not really a full featured browser and hasn't meant replace the normal Firefox on mobile. Confusing...
firefox -new-instance -P
And yes, it's basically a trivial interface shortcutting that FF built tool.
Not necessarily, e.g. you could use VPNs for some containers or randomize the ipv6 suffix.
It seems like a great feature. It's definitely a differentiator. Perhaps I had too specific of an approach going in. In general, for me tabs in a window are all related so flipping windows or closing windows are the context I switch between.
Ideally, I'd love to have Firefox handle the whole proxying or even networking part. Like have each Firefox profile use different network gateway (useful when you want to route all network traffic trough VPN for example).
It claims to allow you to set proxy settings per container.
Then you carelessly enter your non-temporary email address or phone number to get an order from a shop and the shop links your fingerprint to your offline identifiers. Now you cannot escape from tracking anymore.
Fingerprinting is real. For example, a site of government services for Moscow has fingerprinting code and users log into it with their real name.
You can use containers or private mode but your fingerprint stays the same and uniquely identifies you. Disable WebGL, canvas, accessing non-default fonts from browser, reading OS name and screen size right now and vote for disabling it by default if you don't want to be tracked.
I imagine that would boost Firefox growth.
Edit: Answering my own question...yup, it's in canary as of November 1st.
"Google wants to drop support for blocking WebRequests, which will cripple certain extensions, others might not even work at all. Mozilla is not going to follow this destructive path."
Make sure proper ad blocking only works in firefox and make google choke on their evil policies masked with performance concerns.
That's a stance I like very much. And it is good news for Firefox for sure, since the roughly 30% (last I checked) of users that use privacy-enhancing extensions are being handed a very good incentive to switch.
Nothing similar will ever emerge, because the only reason Gorhill isn't supporting development on Chrome is due to the API changes that means that uBlock literally cannot function anymore. There will never be a new uBlock, or anything similar, on Chrome without some kind of exploit or Chrome backtracking on the manifest changes.
> The blocking version of the Web Request API remains available for managed extensions because of the deep integrations that enterprises may have between their software suites and Chrome.
Guess that leaves corporate Mac and Linux users in the lurch.
I may have to rush an extension...
It’s a great mental exercise and I love the fact that I’ve been able to abandon chrome this way. I feel happy using Firefox now. And all the data google has on me now is so biased because they only get my usage for their own services.
YouTube doesn’t load as fast on Firefox.
Gmail is sometimes slow.
Those are two big ones. So I have google signed out on Firefox and use chrome as simply the gateway to all things google.
Also not a RAM hog.
I have enabled 'infinite history' (do not delete old history, ever) so I can keep a journal of what I've visited when. The history, as large as it might turn out, is just a few MB of an sqlite3 database (places.sql) -- problematic is the management of it using the Firefox UI. Searching is laggy and deletion of swaths of entries is impossible as it makes the history manager UI hang for many minutes or even hours (=essentially I always kill Firefox when I do this by mistake). I suspect the GUI constructs a view of the sqlite db using single GUI objects tied to single DB entries and therefore has maximum overhead.
Editing the places.sql file directly via the sqlite3 CLI (with Firefox shut down) is a matter of (milli)seconds at best.
If I had the resources to compile FF in reasonable time I would give developing the patch a shot myself, but browser development is not an option with my current hardware, and I do not have a build server set up.
PS. The fact that Chrome does not support tagged bookmarks is another nail for its coffin. Makes it impossible to organize 10000s of bookmarks, and search on them.
I used that a LOT, and I'm still sad they removed it for some reason. 10 is very often not enough, because it lists too many similar domains.
1) Increase the number of results in about:config:
Set browser.urlbar.maxRichResults to your desired value (like 60).
2) Make the results scrollable with a userchrome.css tweak:
Using this example or your own: https://github.com/MrOtherGuy/firefox-csshacks/blob/master/c...
I've not probed this deeply, but I have encountered it and can confirm it's a problem. To give an idea of the magnitude of the problem, deleting 10,000 history items can easily lock up Firefox for a full hour. I think but haven't confirmed that it might even be nonlinear. e.g. deleting 1,000 entries 10 times in a row seems faster than deleting 10,000 entries in one go.
I don't know what firefox is doing here, but it's badly broken.
(My places.sqlite is 55MB)
That item can be a node(website) that has thousands of visits associated with it so it needs to then delete each of those in multiple batches of delete statements chunked by the db variable limit(~100 or 1000 I think).
Then after that transaction sqlite rebuilds the indexes(17 by my count) on the database with those items missing.
then it does the next chunk and continues on in chunks until there are no more items to delete and then the next item that was selected begins the process again. there might also be a problem with redrawing the history list taking time away from the deletion itself too. it's tough to say exactly what the full bottleneck it but the chunking of the deletes like that looks like a culprit.
My places.sqlite file is several years old and has moved across several machines, it is 47MB.
I can't say I've experienced the same lag you're describing. At least using the firefox url bar ( where auto-completions show up ) I found it to be pretty quick. The firefox history management window "feels" a little old ( read: 90s ), but is functional for the times I've had to search for a site I visited 5 years ago and vaguely remembered the name.
What specific features would you want to see from firefox's history management window.
Search is quick, in Ctrl+H and the URL bar suggestions are instantaneous. No complaints there.
sqlite3 places.sqlite vacuum
to see if that helps speed things up a bit. might not but it's free and safe(well as safe as anything can be i guess).
here are a few of the places where it's being deleted by the looks of things:
Recently, I tried Firefox again on Windows. And the experience is amazing indeed - faster, smoother, and with trackers blocking, very pleasant. And with strict protection, that's sort-of a builtin ad blocker.
Something still feels off on MacOS even though the last version has been a massive improvement for MBP Retina.
What feels off for you?
> You can turn it on by setting 'apz.allow_zooming' to true. It sort of works but has bugs. You can track the progress and report problems that you see here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1461360.*
A) (if possible) migrate away from the services you mentioned.
B) lock-in deeper and deeper with the biggest advertising company on the planet.
On the other hand, never say never to Google's dominance going out the window. They may find themselves in very deep trouble in the not too distant future.
That said, the mobile version seems really robust.
Firefox really should take care of it's native interface, it feels like a cross-platform app, and while it does have some worthy features to consider, for me it's too non-mac (and in that aspect, it really doesn't look like an Window/Linux app either) for someone using Safari to migrate.
I guess this is a subjective matter because to my eye, it looks fantastic on Windows, matching the Windows 10 dark theme very well. The active tab highlight looks like the open app highlights in my top-docked Windows taskbar. And the Firefox Container color-bars look great below that. Its sharp edges are a match for the sharp look of Windows.
To me, Chrome is the browser that doesn't look right on Windows. Its over-use of curved lines looks anachronistic, as if it's from the 2000s.
It seems they've been struggling to get more Mac developers for a long time. Unfortunately, their toolchain is so foreign to Mac developers, too, that people don't want to learn it. It's a chicken-and-egg problem.
That being said, I like the Firefox UI on Linux, Windows, and Android, so I guess I don't understand the desire for making it "more native". My excitement for the new Firefox for Android is all about the performance improvements, not the UI design.
My main reason was that Chrome would sync my bookmarks out of order and I am a heavy bookmarks sync user.
I gave Chrome multiple tries for bookmark syncing and yet they would sync them out of order (can't believe I am the only heavy bookmark user on Chrome who cares) so I just stuck with FF.
Then the privacy concerns happened and I stopped trying Chrome. Then Quantum happened and now FF is the lighter, faster browser. I had no real reason to use Chrome except browser compatibility and a few dev tools.
Then ublock origins is getting blocked and now I am recommending people to switch to Firefox.
I do like the seamless and easy to use multiple profiles that Chrome has. Makes it very nice to isolate your tasks. If I am not logged into reddit or HN I waste less time and less cognitive overhead. FF technically has them but I hate how I have to open a prelaunch dialog to use them.
I've been using Firefox from its very beginnings so I can tell you I've tried switching to Chrome and Safari a few times over the years. Every time I tried to import bookmarks to other browsers they would simply crap out, while Firefox handled them without breaking a sweat.
Of course I continue to use FF for many other reasons but, at least at first, good and fast bookmarks management kept me using Firefox.
Lastly, if anyone knows a way to prevent Firefox to show all bookmarks in drop-down menu, let me know :)
I can't really think of a better approach they could've taken, though, if re-signing the certificate wasn't something they could've done straight away.
If it is, and you prefer Firefox to apply ICC color correction to match Safari, set gfx.color_management.mode to 1 in about:config and restart.
There is an upcoming color standard change that will allow web developers to specify wide gamut CSS colors. Right now, they cannot. The current draft of that spec declares that all #aabbcc web colors are not wide color by default, unless specified by the designer. If that is kept in the final release, Firefox will eventually comply and this option will no longer be required.
It's actually pretty bizarre since the basic functionality (hit a note on the piano, send it to the web page that is listening for such events) is so trivial, compared to the vast majority of features.
Saying that it works in chrome, brave, opera, edge etc sounds like “look at all these other vendors who put the effort in” but really they are all running the same code these days so you could instead write “chromium implements it”.
That is not true at this point. AFAIK Windows, OS X and ALSA all support virtual MIDI devices. Windows and OS X (last time I used it) ship with virtual General MIDI outputs and there is a lot of free third party software for virtual input.
I'd rather say that the reason is probably that you need a developer with domain knowledge and interest, and a consensus on what the standard should include.
I’m not saying it’s not something useful to implement, but it usually takes some time and a stable specification before other browse manufacturers want to implement non-mainstream functionality.
The stall in that case seems caused by the overly ambitious design of the Web Audio API altogether. It's utterly useless for audio processing or synthesis except when using the aforementioned APIs because it mandates a bunch of underspecified high level concepts. Just let me fill a buffer with floats for the speakers and read a buffer of floats for the mic. That's literally all I need, and literally the only way you can build, say, a compressor and have full control of its characteristics.
When researching the best option I found this, so I'm not alone in thinking this: https://blog.mecheye.net/2017/09/i-dont-know-who-the-web-aud...
Same goes for other things. WebGl is very rarely useful for me. But if I liked playing (or developing) games, it would be awesome if the browser allowed that sort of thing rather than forcing developers to build for a specific native platform. So an immense amount of work has gone into webGl, even though it appeals to a fairly small subset of users right now.
I'd guess you could imagine desktop apps that use a midi keyboard. Like, ones to learn piano, or otherwise do interesting musical stuff. I mean, they have WebAudio, but its usefulness is limited if they can't do anything with a keyboard.
In my case, I develop a web app that does music stuff. (and it actually has to be a web app because of the way it uses YouTube) It's disappointing that I have to say "Chrome/Blink only."
I have been using FF Nightly and FF Dev Edition on both my work and home machines (MacOS and Arch Linux) for years, using the former for personal browsing and the latter for work.
I generally only restart the browser when there are updates, and I’ve maybe had two or three restarts in all that time where I lost my tabs. Even rebooting the computer, I usually get a window asking if I want to restore my tabs, which works with no fuss. On the rare occasions that doesn’t happen, I’ve been able to “restore previous session” from the history menu.
I have generally beefy machines, but I’ve never had personally noticeable issues with performance since Quantum was released. I usually have somewhere between five and fifty tabs open in each browser.
The only crashes I’ve seen that I remember have been when I was playing with WebRender settings in about:config, and happened whenever I was scrolling in a particularly large Confluence document. Also, occasionally my strict third party settings will make a login or other functionality break, in which case it’s easy to relax the settings just for that page.
FF integrates very well with 1Password, which is my password manager of choice.
I use FF Mobile on iOS, and while it is a bit rougher on battery life than safari, having all my history and bookmarks synced is worth it.
Anyway, my experience is definitely not everyone’s, and I don’t doubt that some people have strange and frustrating issues with the browser. That being said, I suspect experiences like mine are more common than comments on threads like this suggest.
I installed Manjaro on my Surface Pro and Firefox was included (? or I happened to install it instead of Chrome, I'm fuzzy on that)
The next day, a few minutes before a job interview I opened Firefox to find a curious error
Using an older version of Firefox can corrupt bookmarks and browsing history already saved to an existing Firefox profile. To protect your information, create a new profile for this installation of Firefox
I click through it and... everything's gone. Including my plugins, which I need for... 1Password. To log into my Google account, to access the link I need to join.
Cue me frantically googling how to fix it, before I end up having to type in a 70 character password off my phone screen.
In the end I did manage to fix it by manually editing the profile. But obviously off to a terrible start, joining the meeting almost 5 minutes late.
Enter the interview and we're screen sharing my IDE. But it's a complete slideshow on my end. My computer is running like it's throttling itself, I can barely create a new project.
Cue me fumbling through the activity monitor when it becomes clear that there's no way I'll be able to complete the interview like this.
Firefox is going haywire and using all my resources.
"Hey sorry, do you mind if I take a second and install Chrome"
Install Chrome in the middle of the interview and it handles screen sharing just fine without killing the laptop.
Keep in mind, this is all WebRTC screen sharing, no custom plugin or anything, so the implementation is 100% on the browser.
You could watch my interviewers enthusiasm fade, and my confidence drop off a cliff as I went through all this. I was pretty much told I didn't perform terribly, but they weren't sure about my knowledge based on the final output (half the interview being wasted on FF issues)
So yeah, stuck with FF for 24hrs, figuring what's the worst that could happen, HN is always hyping it up.
Indirectly cost me a job opportunity in those 24hrs.
I won't be trying it again.
Edit: just wanted to make sure to say that there’s no sarcasm here at all. I would absolutely feel the same way if I had had that experience
I just happen to favor Firefox because I like its speed, look & feel, user interface quirks (versus the quirks of the other browsers), and options for customization.
Notably, I use proper workstations both at home and in the office. I suppose it's possible the popularity of using laptops as developer "workstations" may be underlying much of the grievance we often see here.
Several issues have been opened on Bugzilla in this regard , none of which have been resolved to date.
People being non-HN users. It's easy to say "Just go to the blog!" but people don't like navigating away from their Twitter app (often they're on mobile) to do that, for whatever reason. I agree 100% with blogging more but the views just are not there.
There is one thing that threatens now and then to move me to Chrome.
Here is a sample of that thing: prosecutable subtractive tunable epicycle inductor subparagraphs transactional micropayments blacksmithing inductor solvability verifier ethicist tradable tradeable auditable splitter surveil responder commenter.
Firefox tells me that all of those words are spelled wrong. Chrome, Safari, and on Windows Edge all know that most or all of them are spelled right.
It just gets tiring to regularly be commenting somewhere and get distracted by Firefox falsely claiming some word is misspelled, disrupting my train of thought as I have to go look it up to verify that I am in fact spelling it right.
Everything else I type text into manages to spell check orders of magnitude better than Firefox.
 Yes, I know about Firefox's multi-account containers. Great if all you are trying to do is keep yourself logged in to a couple different accounts at the same site. If you want to have separate bookmarks, extensions, and history too, you need to use profiles. Firefox has them, but Chrome does them better.
That's the same complaint I have, BTW, with every part of Firefox. If it's part of the UI, I don't want them to try to do better. I want them to just use the built-in one.
For this reason I don't trust it when I'm doing meaningful work.
The solution is the same as always: don't upgrade until you are ready to reboot the system anyways. Or don't upgrade at all, if you can get away with it.
Which browser is good for meaningful work?
Have you ever applied any of the about:config settings from one of those harmful “privacy” guides? Are you using an enterprise or school managed computer?
1) Iridium doesn't send info to Google like Chrome does (or that is the idea);
3) OpenBSD adds pledge/unveil system calls from the browser, to prevent it from reading/writing files where it should not (plus I browse under a different user than I do other things with high confidence there will not be a privilege escalation; also they say the pledge/unveil support is easier to implement in Chrome/Iridium than in Firefox because of the cleaner separations of concerns in the code organization (my wording; though they have probably also put pledge/unveil in FF also for all I know),
4) Maybe the security of Chrome/Iridium benefits from Google's bug bounties, more than what Firefox has done (ie, the security track record of each, frequency of major holes over, say, the last 1-3 years). I don't really know but I'm glad they try.
Given those things, what are the remaining biggest reasons I might prefer Firefox? (I am aware of OBSD removing DNS-over-HTTP from Firefox, indicating that is a choice that should be made by the user at the system level instead).
But the container UX is still not perfect. Only recently did they fix it so you can log into a site via Facebook or Google.
But my biggest issue is power management. On my Mac, when I run Firefox, the fans spin at around 3K at all times and the load is moderate at all times.
When I turn off Firefox and switch to Chrome or Safari, the fans spin at 2K.
Firefox is just a huge resource drain when it runs on Mac. Which is too bad because it's my favorite browser feature-wise.
It's also nice to use tree style tabs to manage them all, plus you can reclaim the space for the tabs at the top with some css. I couldn't find anything matching this in chrome in terms of stability and ease of use.
They have announced they will be releasing builds for Linux recently. They also are weighing their options with the Manifest v3 changes.
If Microsoft wanted to steal a bunch of users from Chrome, this seems like an easy "win". Don't support / force the Manifest v3 changes and win a bunch of goodwill from people who are able to use uBlock Origin style adblockers.
I know this has implications with extension compatibility but won't this just mean that the new Edge browser supports a super-set of extensions when compared to Chrome?
The new firefox is better at power management but since I’m on a Linux laptop it’s now Firefox (no safari on Linux).
There is actually something we can do to make T-mo reconsider: Call up one of their agents and play the naive user reporting the problem. Then voice a complaint when told that "the site supports Chrome and Safari". These calls get logged as an expense, presumably charged to the earlier policy decision to drop FF.
Well you can open an image in a new tab by holding down control as you click the 'view image' button. Right click on any image and hold control.
Do you have examples of these? It's helpful to report them to the webcompat web-bugs repository as you discover them - e.g. https://github.com/webcompat/web-bugs/issues/36955 - https://webcompat.com/ has more information on the project.
I searched for a while for a decent way to deal with the "too many tabs" problem and SessionSync is where I've landed, so far anyway.
SessionSync doesn't ask you to set up an account anywhere new - it just saves tabs as bookmarks into a 'SessionSync' folder in your firefox bookmarks menu, which are then synced automatically with the rest of your firefox profile data, to any other computers or phones synced with the same profile. Even if you decided to stop using SessionSync, you'd still have access to everything using Firefox's usual bookmarks interface. It basically gives you some options that I think firefox was missing, to save and restore whole sets of tabs to ordered lists in bookmark folders rather than dealing with urls individually.
I have no affiliation with SessionSync; just wanted to mention it as one thing I really like in the firefox ecosystem. It has rough edges (e.g. no 'undo' if you save over the wrong folder accidentally, and sometimes weirdly changes the order of tabs on save), but it's the best tool I've found so far to do this sort of thing. Please let me know if you're using something as good or better though :)
If one is concerned about privacy and data being sent to Google using FF, well, there is always IceCat. Managed by the people, who stand most firmly for your rights in computing and software. GNU.
It is also quite well known, that Chromium and Chrome are memory hogs. One OS process per tab? Really? I've also not read anything about improvements on that front in the last many months, while at least with Quantum the FF developers aim to keep memory usage low and cores optimally used - at least in their pitch.
I think Chromium has a long way to go, before it gets close to low memory usage for many tabs scenarios. As a tab hoarder and curious person, memory usage patterns like the one of Chromium are not acceptable. I am sitting on 238 tabs in IceCat right now and 33% of my 8GB RAM are in use, with several other applications, including one electron based open at the same time. No problem whatsoever to have my browser and multiple other memory intensive applications open.
The same seems infeasible with Chromium and its forks. I've seen it with double of my RAM and much less tabs on a co-worker's machine. Chrome just ate all of his RAM. I cannot remember, whether it crashed then, or he had to close the browser, to continue to work. Both are quite disruptive for getting things done.
I think FF devs have done a great job with Quantum. Unfortunately one cannot always trust Mozilla entirely (see some cases of "studies" and the money they get from Google), although they often do great work and enhance online privacy. For me it seems the better option to stay behind a shield of people, who take privacy and user rights very seriously and remove telemetry and similar things from FF and use the outcome of that.
That is false and defamatory. Chromium is noticeably faster than Firefox on a large swath of popular websites and web applications, the majority of which Google does not control; particularly on resource-constrained devices, and on Linux.
Memory usage comparisons on different machines with different pages and different other applications running are beyond meaningless. Chromium will use less memory if you don't have much, and it will use more if you have memory to spare; I'm sure Firefox will do some similar things.
> For example, they recently added a hidden empty div over YouTube videos that causes our [EdgeHTML's] hardware acceleration fast-path to bail (should now be fixed in Win10 Oct update). Prior to that, our fairly state-of-the-art video acceleration put us well ahead of Chrome on video playback time on battery, but almost the instant they broke things on YouTube, they started advertising Chrome's dominance over Edge on video-watching battery life.
Still the whole argument is laughable, because even if I saw every page a second or 2 slower, it would still be worth it, if it protects my rights online.
Also using more memory just because I have more, to the degree of using all of it, is not a good strategy. Sorry, I run other applications too, the browser is not the only contender for my RAM. I highly doubt that Firefox does anything half as aggressive with regard to memory as Chrome does, in order to "impress the user" with their speed. As I said, sitting on over 200 tabs and only using 33% of my RAM, while other applications are running too. It is not simply eating up all my memory, as I have seen Chrome doing with loads of tabs.
Why would I hobble interesting performance features of the browser just to compare it unfairly to a browser which lacks those features, or doesn't implement them properly? FWIW I have some forms of prefetch disabled, it's still faster. Chromium is in fact faster, in addition to having more of those "tricks" to hide latency.
> Still the whole argument is laughable, because even if I saw every page a second or 2 slower, it would still be worth it, if it protects my rights online.
What rights do you gain by using a Netscape fork rather than a KHTML fork? Both Mozilla and Google censor extensions and occasionally install proprietary components the user did not ask for; but Google doesn't preach about being some saintly do-gooder (and Chromium distributions with privacy and do-good claims like this are about as trustworthy as Mozilla).
> Also using more memory just because I have more, to the degree of using all of it, is not a good strategy. Sorry, I run other applications too, the browser is not the only contender for my RAM.
AFAIK it will size down when other applications allocate more memory.
> I highly doubt that Firefox does anything half as aggressive with regard to memory as Chrome does, in order to "impress the user" with their speed.
Is that... a good thing? Seems like you're spinning Firefox lacking sophistication as some sort of great advantage.
Added: If you just don't want to be attached to google services, or have the possibility to accidentally enable a google service, you can try ungoogled-chromium.
Two: I did mention GNU IceCat, for those worried about Mozilla. So all your points about "Google is not worse than Mozilla" drip off like raindrops off a raincoat.
Aside from that, I do not see Google implementing privacy enhancing features in their browser, nor do I see it happening in Ungoogled-Chromium. Mozilla developers on the other hand did provide us with some tracking protection features during the last months. So I am not buying what you are trying to sell me.
I even wrote a oneliner to see if it is just an illusion:
As can be seen in the tests, it is mainly about the startup time after a reboot. Where Chromium is way faster.
Not sure what the reason. Maybe Chromium actively caches something right during the boot? Or maybe it uses less dependencies?
1. I feel I can trust Mozilla much more than I can trust Google.
2. I can run my own sync server for passwords, bookmarks, etc.
Tab search is done by typing % in the address bar followed by a keyword to search among opened tabs.
- Ctr+L to get in the address bar
- Shift+6 to type %
- type your keywords.
My fingers, especially the pinky just cannot do this, particularly switching between Ctrl and Shift. Also, you have to release Shift otherwise the space doesn’t get typed.
Please, please come up with an easier finger gymnastics to use this native feature.
- remap Left Alt to Ctrl
- remap Windows/Meta btn to Alt
- I also set CapsLock as Esc
So all my shortcuts, in apps, DE and IDE are suiper comfortable for me though this could suck if you have to work on a different person computer.
FF -> main browser with Noscript & and clear cookies on close. Which cripples some website, but is fine for most browsing.
Chrome -> For when priority is site working not privacy. e.g. airline checkin, banking, email etc.
Plus obv all the usual pihole etc.
Currently the best compromise I've managed on blocking sketchy stuff while not going full stallman email myself articles.
I imagine any browser worth its salt will eventually switch over to DoH as the default as time goes on, as it's a great feature even though it doesn't honor the /hosts file or honor pi-hole configured routers, it's still a great feature to have.
You shouldn't guess/imagine something and then build your opinion on it. IIRC, Chrome will continue to use your configured nameservers and only use DoH if it's in a whitelist of known implementers.
Any browser which wants to be banned by AD group-policies in big organisations, sure.
I filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1595961 just now to track this, but I have a hard time reconciling this specific example with the "requested for years" characterization in the original comment...
If you are able to file issues you run into, that would be much appreciated; people can't fix problems they're not aware of.
Is it just me or does the scrolling feel a bit different in Firefox? I am running Firefox on a Macbook from 2019 using the touch pad.