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This might be off topic, but I highly encourage anyone to visit Montreal - ideally in summer, but even in winter. It's the most vibrant city in Canada, and the 2nd best city in North America (behind NYC).

If you want to discover precisely what the Bay Area is missing when people talk about "culture" - Montreal has it.

Note: I'm a 30+ year Bay Area native.

> the 2nd best city in North America (behind NYC).

I'm curious what set of criteria could possibly take into account all the cities of North America and lead to such a conclusion. Montreal and NYC are not even remotely similar.

Disagree. Montreal is as if Paris and Brooklyn had a baby.

I no nowhere else on the North American continent that has as much nightlife (except Miami), as many restaurants (except NYC), as many universities (???) and young people (???) and just "stuff to do"

The city has a very lived-in feeling and great architecture. Completely the opposite of California.

I've wanted to visit Montreal my whole life but this comparison makes me want to avoid it!

It's a great city for tourists in summer.

But to live in Montreal is another ball game. Shops close at 9. On weekends by 5. Never ending construction. Old noisy apartments. Crazy drivers. Badly marked road signs.

The only good thing I have experienced so far is the metro system & the underground city.

I quite enjoyed it when I was there and I intend to visit again, but the comments above about it having the greatest nightlife of anywhere except Miami struck me as slightly mad. Maybe there's some secret stuff that I have not discovered yet...

You haven't missed anything. St Catherine's street is all the nightlife you get in Montreal. As a resident of Montreal in my opinion, a tourist will find the city good for a week or so partly because of its unique look n feel European style. After that the reality of Montreal's worn down infrastructure kicks in. I would say Montréal is just riding on its old glory days before Bill 101.

My wife is a Montreal native and we go there once a year to visit her mother. I love it there but it has it's downside like every other place. The roads are horrible and the traffic to get on and off the island is insane. Hopefully the new bridge will help. I think having a French speaking partner along with you makes the experience much better.

Also good luck getting customer service in English. Its worse if you are not white.

I am not sure you can call it 'culture', but I find Québec is culturally friendly to "white French speakers"

When’s the last time you’ve been? I’ve found everyone to be extremely friendly, even in the east (French) side of the island.

All you need to do is learn “I’m sorry, I don’t speak French - but I’m learning!”

Im a temp. resident of Montreal but contemplating on moving out of Quebec soon. As a non white minority, I don't feel welcome in Quebec at all.

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I hardly think this problem, while absolutely abhorrent, is unique to Montreal.

You will have to be a resident in Montreal to experience it. Tourist spots don't count.

I usually stay in Verdun or Hochelaga... I'm not a stranger to the city.

That really depends on the neighbourhood.

Some typically french lower class neighbourhoods have xenophobic francophones, but in the last 15 years they have moved off the main island or in the far east boroughs (Riviere des Prairies, etc.).

If you're on the actual island of Montreal, it's unlikely you'll face any problems for not speaking French. I've known dozens of people immigrate here speaking only one language and adapt fine.

Why the downvotes, this is exactly how it is, we have to talk about it openly, expose it and try to change it!

Or learn a little French, which is extremely not at all hard.

I spent a few days there and by the end of my time was conducting the entirety of my simple shop purchases in French, despite not having studied it before.

That's a very tall claim in regards to learning a language especially French.

You just need to learn some basics. "I would like" "I feel like" "Where is" "Hello, goodbye, Good day"

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