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KIAM is not part of the core Kubernetes system but it was a necessary component to avoid introducing a security regression as part of the switch.

Again, my point was that rather than trying to do PR damage-control it would be better to work to improve things so this doesn't understand. Someone went to the trouble of posting a detailed examination of a real problem with a fix and some references to upstream improvements. That's a lot more useful than trying to draw a line between one of two tools commonly used to meet security requirements when operating Kubernetes in one of the most popular cloud environments.






There are many alternatives to kiam within the K8S space.

So would disagree that is specifically is a necessary component.


It’s not necessary to use kiam - as I mentioned that multiple times - but you need something like that if you’re trying to maintain security coming from a good EC2/ECS deployment. Since it’s one of the more popular options, and Java is not uncommon, it seemed reasonable to consider this a likely pain point for many users.

It’s not PR. It’s being accurate that this has nothing to do with Kubernetes.

I would not describe a service which is only ever used on Kubernetes workers and is only necessary for code running on Kubernetes as having nothing to do with Kubernetes. The fact that you and the OP are so emotionally driven to find a way to dismiss it is what makes it sound like PR — why not just acknowledge there's a real problem which is being fixed and be glad someone documented it well enough to save other people time? Nobody is saying that Kubernetes is bad, or that you shouldn't use it, only that there's an interaction which Java users should know about if they're running on AWS.

You're being strangely aggressive about this. Nobody cares about PR here, nor is anyone denying anything. We're just being accurate.

KIAM and the Java SDK have bad timeout overlap. That's the problem, has nothing to do with Kubernetes, and looks like it's well documented and now resolved.


This was a well-written post about a problem a lot of people would encounter with a common Kubernetes deployment. Instead of talking about that, most of the comments were people complaining about the title.



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