I explained that she ran a Silicon Valley startup that was trying shrink this little cubicle area we're in here down to the size of an ipad.
I thought he might identify with the difficulty if not absurdity of that mission. His response surprised me:
"Well, actually, it turned out to be a giant fraud. She's been indicted and is awaiting trial."
"Not surprised. You know how much money this industry is worth? Big Blood isn't going to let that happen."
I let him focus on his work after that.
I drank water before going in for my urine test. I never did a urine test... And remember vividly peeing in the waiting room as I left, thinking it's weird I didn't do a urine test. But I didn't care as it was through away results, I just needed a formed sign for my money.
Well, somehow I got results back for a urine test. When I questioned it... They said, nah no way its wrong... I did a test.
I'm not really surprised that he'd never heard, though. The story was much more popular in the startup/tech space than the medical space. I know a bunch of people working in molecular diagnostics who hadn't heard about it while it was happening - though they've all been incredibly fascinated and engaged by the recent book.