I got my whole Vimeo account suspended by some script that had the impression I was violating some of their ToS. I just uploaded 3 demo videos of an app I created. Then they told me I should click on a link to contact support, where they told me I have to log in to contact support, which I couldn't do because my account was shut down.
I just released a blog article that needed these videos, so I didn't have any time for these things so I quickly uploaded the videos to Youtube.
I mean that was just a small account with three videos, but they simply nuked the whole thing. That's just crazy.
I don't think I'm save at Youtube either, I just didn't have a better idea at the time.
Gotta love Silicon Valley Customer Service!! The same thing happened to me with LinkedIn. Multiple Catch-22s and/or Chicken and the Egg.
Silicon Valley Customer Service!!
None of my stuff gets enough attention for me to care about exposure, but big content creators who rely on YouTube ads really can't get away from it.
Jesus Christ. Just pay for the bandwidth! You can't at the same time go "I dont want to be subjected to this automation stuff" and "I don't want to pay!"
I've been looking at the same thing.
Ever thought of hosting the videos just like you would any other static file?
It’s a nice feature to allow clients to stream the max bitrate they can handle without buffering. Without this, you sacrifice either quality of those with good connections, or the complete experience of those with poor ones. I ended up struggling with ffmpeg and JPlayer which is never a good day.
Additionally, you need to make sure you use the right codec, something supported on FF, Chrome, and Linux/Mac/Windows/Android/iOS. Due to codec power struggles, this is not self evident.
Hosting video is harder than it seems :(
So if you have 5GB of videos that ALL get watched 10,000 times you will be out $500, so maybe problematic. Or calculated another way, 2.2mbps is good for 720p and comes out to 1GB/hour, so your cost is basically $0.01 per hour of video streamed (plus $5/month).
You are not going to get even one video watched 10k times, not to mention all of those videos. 10K video views is pretty darn close to head rather than the tail.
If you did, you would be making a million a year like @BrunchBoys on IG and hiring people to build an independent platform so when Youtube/Google/FB shut you down you would still have a way to deliver your awesome videos and make money.
P.S. You can always proxy EC2 traffic through the Lightsail to have a cheap delivery.
10K views of a video that's more than a few minutes long is a big deal. Having a hundred of those means a producer is either a celebrity or a real business specializing in video content.
But as far as I know, CF has more free traffic than S3.
While traditional hosters often include traffic with their offerings or charge a much lower amount. For example Hetzner (Big traditional German hoster) costs 1 EUR/TB and traffic is inclusive with most bigger/dedicated offers.
Nitpick: you mean either "extortionate" or something to do with ogliopolies, cartels, and price fixing; usury is when the perpetrator charges interest on a non-defaultable loan.
Those on 3g will have to wait ages for the video to buffer. Those on an old device won't be able to play it at all if you used new codecs. Users won't be able to select playback quality, and on a slow connection, they'll get endless buffering.
You'll have to come up with your own systems for counting how many people viewed the video and which bits they bailed out on. You'll have to reinvent caption translations and go to extra effort to get captions working at all.
Self hosted videos have mostly died for the above reasons.
The point is with HLS or DASH and CloudFlare you can provide the exact same experience to all your users. You can easily automate the process, which I've done. All other problems are already solved by player software like Clappr, JWPlayer, VideoJS, etc. They all use HLS.js and Dash.js in the background...
This advice is pretty stale: 3G is rather old by now – 4G came out in 2009 – and unless you’re still supporting IE8 HTML5 makes it easy to let the browser select from multiple sources (subtitles have similarly had wide support for at least half a decade). Properly hinted video will start playing pretty quickly — certainly not massively slower than someone with 3G on an old device is going to experience everywhere else, especially since that old device isn’t going to pick the 4K version anyway.
When traveling to places with 4G or LTE coverage I'm often downgraded to 3G or edge. My parents' home has mostly 2G/edge connectivity, with some spotty 3G coverage on the second floor. They're "only" on the outskirts of a greater metropolitan area.
Just because some tech is old doesn't mean it's not very much still relevant.
Otherwise, I'll take a look into S3/CloudFront.
Didn't even think that far, lol. Thanks for the info!
Now think about any of the previous similar stories you've seen over the years. Doesn't even have to be about a full account being suspended. E.g. maybe it's about an app or extension being removed from a store, or about a site being removed from the search index, etc. The messages will always have been quite vague on exactly what happened, e.g. just saying that there was a violation of the terms of service.
The level of specificity claimed by the poster is just totally implausible.
Another pointer leading to a probable troll on this one: the original OP's nick is just a bunch of profanities in Finnish .
Oh, how can they receive an email stating the account suspension if the account was suspended in the first place?
 (careful; NSFW) https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=auto...
I don’t like that OP was locked out of his email.
But besides that, it’s not as if he broke some obscure TOS clause. He actively subverted the company’s revenue model to take its product for free. That’s about as obvious as it gets that you’re risking being blocked from a service.
How is this different than using an ad blocker in the browser?
Imagine you using adblock in the CNN website without being logged in and they block your access to all Time Warner services (for example HBO).
That said, fuck that. It's not like people haven't been subverting ads for ages. (From the simple pause recording when the ad starts, rewind just a tad bit and resume-recording when the movie continues to Pi-Hole and Blockada on Android.)
But to your question, if the ad blocker is subverting the company's revenue model and they can detect it, you risk the company blocking you. Per the Issue, it looks like the service that is there to scan for bad actors on your device may've picked up that NewPipe was installed on their device which may've caused them to look (speculation on all counts).
Would that mean that using progs like `youtube-dl` to fetch videos from Youtube may get your Goog Account deleted?
I don't use an ad blocker, and if I don't want to see ads I pay for the service, such as with Reddit, Ars Technica, Windows Live Mail, Netflix, and YouTube. Technically, I quit Netflix once they started showing me ads, even though they were for their own shows (general dark patterns were the more significant factor though).
So in principle I would have to say that one shouldn't mute TV ads, or skip them using +10 second buttons. Of course I will not always live my life up to that principle...
That just doesn't make sense. Not using their services has zero advantages compared to blocking ads. But by using them, you raise their costs, making their business model less viable.
> I don't use an ad blocker, and if I don't want to see ads I pay for the service, such as with Reddit, Ars Technica, Windows Live Mail, Netflix, and YouTube.
By paying for services, you show that you have disposable income. You cannot escape ads that way except in the short term.
The control is only authoritarian if those being controlled by it have no recourse. As applied to governments, authoritarianism has strong central power and limited political freedoms. In the US, we believe in the principles of limited central power, and many political freedoms. (Whether or not this is the situation depending on who you are is the topic of another day because this is how it should be, and the only way it may have become not that is if we have allowed our complacencies to kick in and allow it to happen. I am a firm believer in the concept of "people get the government they deserve in a democracy." ) Ultimately the governmental authoritarian control is beholden to the people and can be eradicated. The only reason we feel as if it can't be is because we have allowed the power to creep up over the years and it seems like an insurmountable mountain, but rest assured if you pick up that pick axe and start chipping away rock by rock you absolutely can tear it down.
Likewise, authoritarianism applied to a corporation implies strong central power, and limited consumer freedoms. This is also patently false in the US. The US has anti-trust laws to prevent centralized control, consumer protection agencies, and the free market. The consumer ultimately always has the freedom to choose another option. If the corporation loses too many consumers, then the corporation goes under. I understand there is a lot of nuance, but this is the basic principles of how things should operate in this country, and the mechanisms for things to operate are in fact there. The question then becomes what are it's people doing about it?
Just wanted to observe that this belief presupposes the US ever lived up to the principles you outline. US history shows that the country has never quite lived up to its touted values.
You had me going until this, nice satire
It is so commonplace that we miss it, but one ruling organization steps down and another, often with opposing views, steps up.
(Though it probably helped that the French Revolution had happened before ;))
Even 15 years ago right after they launched the service they were already having computers make decisions without human review or oversight.
I've had similar experiences with most of Google's services, including my phone nearly being bricked due to a cyclic error on Play Store. I keep a list of these little joys (on gdocs, ironically).
It was hard enough getting someone to look at these insanely frustrating errors and problems when I was a SWE there and could pinpoint someone who could fix them. Fixing these problems doesn't advance anyone's career, so nobody is incentivized to care. The idea of getting anything resolved from "out here" is just comical. Instead, I get to +1 a report on their forums, where one of their "community experts" gleefully tells us not to worry, someone will probably fix it someday. And in the meantime, have you tried power cycling? Because, Google! (Cue cute xylophone music.)
 Guess I'm not the only one with problems. Two stars for the Chrome app that's required: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-play-music/.... Does anyone actually care at Google? I doubt it. Too many cool new features to build to worry about existing ones working. Someday I might even write up a piece on how I was shipped off to the Goolag (Google Seattle) because I insisted on having a team to keep our product's data up to date.
Attempts to add a payment method always fail and it won't let me remove the one that doesn't seem to be working. The help support articles linked on that same page 404 and I can't seem to find a way to get any assistance on the issue. It has been stuck like this for years, occasionally I try to remedy it and end up in the same loop. It is extremely frustrating.
To which they replied that they couldn't because the account was locked. That certainly doesn't seem to add up, though it might just be a mis-communication.
Lots of people use NewPipe with unrooted phones, so if it is an actual policy, we should see more widespread bans. If we don't, I'm going to dismiss it as, "we don't have the full story, or its made up entirely."
That being said, of course you should take steps to mitigate the impacts of being banned by Google. But you should have been doing that anyway, so I don't think this story changes anything.
But... no, I wouldn't panic over using NewPipe.
It's important to remember that all stories have 2 sides, and to consider other possibilities when you only hear one side of a story.
In this case however the account holder is being totally up front about their activities: they were using a proxy network to rip off YouTube. This is a bit like Trump committing treason on live TV and then later whining about impeachment on Twitter. What's in question is not the facts but the policy.
If just looking were illegal, you could shove it in someone's face on the sidewalk and they'd instantly be guilty of a serious crime.
What the user describes sounds like an account lockdown, not an IP ban.
'shadowgovt owes me 12.3 BTC.
It doesn't have the required permissions to get IMEI, so no.
It's super cheap (I prepaid for two years or something and it came out to less than $3/mo), faster than Gmail and won't kill your life.
EDIT: I hear Protonmail is also good, just use one of the two. They're great.
Australia's government sucks ass, yes. But Fastmail seems focused on its product and has been conveying their positions and opposition to such legislation. Google does not do this, they run Google Suite like it's an automated hobby project. I'm quite certain that it's more likely that our data with Google would be used to provide data sets that could be used for advertising or sold/adapted to state surveillance (sensorvault anyone?). Even if it wasn't, we're still worse off when they arbitrarily suspend accounts and only provide us with outsourced customer service lacking an escalation path that only takes calls overnight.
Fastmail wrote a blog post about the law: https://fastmail.blog/2018/09/10/access-and-assistance-bill/
Not telling you it'll definitely work for you, but there is something similar out there.
- google maps
These are the two things I find more or less impossible to replace on android. For Pay, there is no alternative at all.
For Maps, there is Osmand, which is good as static map, but not for finding addresses.
Mapbox does realtime traffic these days, https://benmaps.fr can show this layer (I haven't found that button in mobile view though, might need to do a pull request), as well as your local traffic authority probably or some other local companies.
Business info can be found through regular search engines, or if that is really difficult, then you can always fall back to google maps every once in a while.
Street view is not available where I live anyway, and Mapillary is doing reasonably. They also have OsmAnd integration. OpenStreetCam is another alternative.
Satellite imagery is not exclusive to google maps either, there are lots of sources for this, and often also plane-shot imagery from your local government. You can configure a layer in OsmAnd. Personally I use Bing Maps most frequently for this (not the app, just bing.com/maps) since it is a lot more smooth/lightweight than the awfully heavy google maps website. (I don't really use sat imagery on mobile anyway.)
Trip recording ("location history" in google) can be done with OsmAnd or many other apps as well. I configured it to automatically turn on when routing: then I have GPS on anyway and I might as well store the data. Often fun to see stats afterwards (max speed, avg speed, asc/descend, or sometimes it's practical to see the time it took).
I think that should cover the functionality of google maps.
Google pay I never heard of, unless you mean paying for apps in the Play Store, in which case the solution is to contact the developers directly, though they usually don't seem to care enough to get you as a customer (I tried this four times, never got a reply, thus never became a customer since quitting google play).
Hope this helps!
If you don't want to use Google Pay, can you not just carry a credit card?
Anyways I since switched to Protonmail for frivolous web signups & registering on sites, and then I use Fastmail for various business dealings / freelancing / anything related to finance like Paypal, online banking, etc. I simply can't afford to be arbitrarily banned by Google again.
..although e-mail delivery has seemed to be getting better in the past year.
My current Google account has no g-mail connected to it, which has lead to some interested bugs in Hangouts (you can't search for Google contacts once G+ went away, even if you clearly see them in current chats).
I also host my own Calendar/Contacts using Radicale + DavX (formerly DavDroid)
I want to emphasize just how bad the spam filtering has gotten. I didn't realize it for a long time, but now that I check the spam folder regularly I've realized that a LOT of legit emails get flagged by Google. Even ridiculously obvious stuff, like a non-automated reply to an email that I initiated sometimes gets flagged as spam.
The assurance that they've used no other apps I put little faith in; I've too often both delivered and received the incorrect "but I'm sure I did nothing else, it had to be this!" claim. We do a lot of things without forming strong memories of them all the time. No offense intended to the original reporter, it's just my experience says that's rarely a highly trustworthy claim, even when trustworthy people make it.
(Obvious solution: use the approved clients.)
One would have to do a deep-read of the implementation of those APIs to know what they might leak (or toss a packet sniffer in the network stack).
Using the system browser or webview doesn't send any user identifying information (other than device type and version) in http requests. There's no plausible reason why using the download manager API would do it either.
There isn't evidence other than the user in question's account apparently got banned and they claim to be using NewPipe. So it's one possible avenue of further investigation if one tries to figure out how Google would even know to ban a user that was using a tool that allows connection to YouTube anonymously.
But if that guy built a custom build of NewPipe that did a million simultaneous downloads, and that impacted service availability for other users, that would make Google ban him.
(I assume that's the one you meant. "Ctrl-F" is very vague when you have a bunch of comments in this thread.)
Do you have the enhanced security features turned on? Google's systems trust the logins more if you have to 2-factor them against a phone or somesuch.
I completely get it being flagged, I even wrote ML/DL-based anomaly detector for mobile stuff myself, but it really gets in the way, so I switched my primary account over to ProtonMail.
I had the opposite problem not too long ago; was away for a relative's wedding and had my phone die during the trip. Even after replacing the phone, getting back into my Google account on the new phone was a chore, because the phone that died was all my trusted devices (2FA key holder and receiver of phone calls for verification at the same time).
That's not actually two factor authentication anymore. Also that's pretty typical of 'two' factor authentication systems IME.
I also use a NAS device (cheap!) and a lifetime Plex account for my viewer. Only iOS “live” photos are inconvenient to back up anywhere but iCloud so I don’t take many Live Photos.
Apart from that, I keep a Google Takeout archive the same way (RAID 1, B2)
Google Photos is a handy worst-case backup for your photos, but it's not magic and you really need to keep another copy somewhere.
I used to use offlineimap and as far as I know it should still work...
FYI, it still works.
It's true that I had to create my own google console project to have my own tokens some months ago, but I think that's a very good move in any case.
Disclaimer: I'm the developer.
* Items/characters cannot be trademarked unless they are the source of goods or services (so therefore this service would have the right whereas JK. Rowling et al wouldn't) 
* Items/characters are copyrighted when featured in a copyrighted piece of fiction (which Horcruxes are). 
* JK Rowling et al are crazy litigious 
* JK seems to endorse/praise fan collections of stuff, but the team come down hard on people trying to sell that commercially.  That does, however, seem to be for publishing books eg. fan fact books.
I do find these account suspensions terrifying. It's the biggest issue I have with using GMail, but I treat it like any very low probability event of shit happening to my data.
(unlike IMAP, it only downloads things No way the server can tell the client to delete something)
And anything else you care about.
People were bad at backing up local data, but what they're worse at is backing up data that is in someone else's hands ("cloud").
Recently I was listening to a tech podcast (Tweakers, Dutch) and they discovered how dependent the presenters were on Spotify for their entire collection of playlists and library that they spent lots and lots of time gathering and curating. The reason I don't have this problem is because I already had this problem: Grooveshark happened to me. My music was all on there, including custom mp3s that I pulled from Youtube. So after spending some time importing all of that to Spotify from memory, I used the API calls to export my data from time to time. These days, people have it easy: just run a GDPR export from the Spotify website. (That reminds me, I should still email the guys at Tweakers.)
I guess I also grew up with data loss more than average. As someone who wrote code from ~12 years old, but who didn't understand the rest of their computer well enough to take proper care of it, the family computer guy had to reinstall it a bunch of times and I lost data every time for different reasons (he also didn't really give a damn). And I overwrote an external hard drive once when I thought that backup software would just put the backup there, not clone the disk. And 000webhost cancelled my account one summer. And a hard drive died, then (I actually had a backup!) the backup hard drive was accidentally destroyed by my little brother. In that summer, I lost all code, school documents, game save files, browsing history, chat history, nearly everything I ever did digitally. Taught me a thing or two...
Step Two: Set up gmail to forward all emails to the new email account.
Step Three: Stop giving out your gmail address.
Step Four: Start marking all emails that get forwarded to you through gmail that you don't want to see as spam in gmail.
Step Five: Start migrating all real-life contacts and online accounts to use your tutanota email account.
SERIOUSLY, start paying for email from an email-specialized company in some European country with extremely strict privacy (such as Germany). GET OUT OF GMAIL and OUT OF U.S.A. EMAIL-BASED PROVIDRES A.S.A.P.
See for example this [Dutch provider](https://www.transip.nl/webhosting/) that I myself use, but it includes webhosting. So you can probably find email providers for less.
I'd suggest instead, for much cheaper, Posteo.de, Runbox.com, Mailbox.org, Mailfence.com or Migadu.
Even still, I find that other people's address books are remarkably immutable and despite this auto-response having been employed for around five years I still have important emails directed at the dead address.
- What's the best way to fully back up a G-Suite instance, so you could get back on your feet really quickly if something like this happened?
I use G-Suite for email and docs and a bunch of stuff for my company, and I'm willing to pay money to have it all backed up in real time and ready to switch in the event of a disaster.
What's the best way to do that? I know Spanning and Backupify are two popular solutions. Would be curious if anyone has experience.
You should also run your email on your own domain, and make sure the registrar isn't Google nor requires them for logging in.
Using takeout manually every so often is a pain.
The fact that Google would suspend their account instead of just blocking their access to YouTube is an abuse of their near-monopoly. I'll be taking steps to migrate off the Google stack for this.
Especially if your work depends on it, I would encourage everyone to do the same. No other company (including your bank) should be able to shut down your business and/or ruin you financially because they close your account temporarily.
At the same time, this also means you're less affected by discontinued products or price hikes.
The attack surface is larger than a TOS violation (someone could spear-phish your login credentials, or a coordinated attack on your account could lead to denial-of-service if Google can't disambiguate your legitimate attempts to login from attackers' attempts).
It's not an ideal state of affairs. But the alternative would probably need to be more rigorous identity verification and locking down of systems.
I question whether separate accounts would help, Google's automated systems probably connect them and bans all of them anyway.
If I lose those accounts, I'm pretty sure I'm screwed, there are many online services that require you to open an email and retrieve a temporary code, or require you to have access to the original email account in order to switch to a new one. I don't know what I'd do if I'd lost those.
After a few pages, the linked github issue devolves into discussions around "how Google could detect you're using NewPipe" instead of whether or not you should be allowed to use it. That makes me think it's more in the realm of "we know this is against the rules but you can secretly use it" rather than a grey area of what's allowed or not.
It's more of a controversial take, but I'm honestly surprised people don't get banned for using Adblockers in general. This seems even worse than an adblocker (in that it just flat-out steals videos from YouTube and puts it in its own ad-less interface), so I'm not surprised that 1) it likely violates YouTube's terms and conditions, and 2) that violating YouTube's T&C is grounds for terminating your account.
Do you want to block me from using YouTube with this account? Fine. Do it, that's fair. But terminating the account, effectively blocking someone to access anything tied to that account is a "piece of shit" move.
If you Do Something Bad in Facebook Marketplace, I'd expect the entire Facebook account to be banned -- not just restricting access to where Bad Thing happened (FB Marketplace). Or, if you broke T&C on Amazon's marketplace, I'd expect your AWS account to be banned also. If you cheat in one game sold through Steam, your entire Steam account gets banned/penalized, not just your access to that one game.
I can kind of understand why people think Google's services are different, but I'm not sure why that continues to be the case over time as we move further and further away from back when YouTube had its own accounts.
Actually it depends on the anticheat system used by the game. Anything from Valve will use VAC, and cheating in a game using it will ban you from all games using it. Other games uses EAC, others BattlEye, etc. You won't get banned from all multiplayer games that you own.
But well, maybe it's my way of justification. I already use an ad blocker on desktop and don't even notice that I don't get YT ads. Please don't ban me, Google!