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Except that it's all true - Captain Marvel is for example the new example of US Air force using a hollywood movie to drive their recruitment.

(It's kinda funny really - in the movie the hero returns to earth disgusted because she had to help with operations colonising neutral worlds. And then joins the Air Force.)




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It's all one-sided marketing for one political side (the word for it is usually - propaganda). The only difference is that it's not the US who's holding the purse strings this time.


I guess you missed the bit about false equivalency. The US government is not the same as the CCP, as much as you'd like to fantasize it is.

Maybe you would have repeated the same line if Disney was making cartoons for the Soviets or Nazis last century. And to that I say, bug off.


You've been breaking the site guidelines routinely by being aggressive on this site. We've given you multiple warnings and tried to persuade you not to, but you've responded the same way to our attempts as well.

Since you don't seem to want to use HN as intended, I'm not sure what there is left to do but ban you. I can't help but feel like you don't really mean to be aggressive, though, and are somehow doing this for some other reason. So, one last plea: if you don't want to be banned on HN, please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and take the spirit of this site to heart. There's no reason why you can't make your substantive points in keeping with those guidelines. Yes, there are many bad comments that get posted here. That's no reason to be abusive and make this place even worse.


No, the US government obviously isn't (yet) the same, although it has been far from trustworthy in this last term.

However - if you want to make a moral argument against another side in a conflict, you need to make sure that you're actually standing on a moral high ground. At least if you want to recruit allies on your side. And, if you read the news, current US administration hasn't been treating their allies too well these last years. And US will need allies to resist Chinese influence.

I don't hold any sympathy for the Chinese, but it's also hard to see how following just another bully in an unequal relationship would benefit my non-US government.


What?

This isn’t the us army making the argument or the American state. Normal people are.

How is this different from saying “only people who have never sinned can speak out against evil.” With the added dollop of whataboutism?


> How is this different from saying “only people who have never sinned can speak out against evil.” With the added dollop of whataboutism?

You can't make a moral argument ("China is evil!") without being on moral highground. Having your own moral highground questioned when you're trying to paint youself as better is not "whataboutism".

There's two way how you can go about this argument:

1.) You can debate purely realpolitik - where morals don't matter and only the benefit of US or China hegemony is taken into account. This can be a hard sell though, mostly due to how current administration relentlessly attacks even their historic allies.

2.) You can debate on basis of keeping a free and modern society and how US keeps Chinese totalitarianism at bay. But then you will have to accept having your own morals questioned. Screaming about Chinese totalitarianism when the current US president actively avoids and attacks the US justice system trying to keep him accountable is hypocritical.


And we are free to criticize the current US President, and we are aware of his wrongdoings, as are all citizens of the country- resulting in a change in the way the political calculus of the country runs.

How is this in any way comparable to China where people have to come up with homophones/alternate words to literally get around armies of state censors?




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