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I see it as a difference where people want to join, or are forced to join. Nobody wants to be part of a immoral power, because the immoral stuff will happen to you too. People want a just and fair system.

I split it like this: do you have people at the borders to keep people out, or keep people in. If you have to use force to keep your own citizens and regions in, well good luck to you.

On the other hand, if you have to refuse people and regions to join you, you're in a very good position.

That's why you can only keep using force and supression for so long, and history has shown that we evolve to more fair, moral systems.






People want to join anywhere where it's economically better. Following the victor, whoever they are, whatever they believe, is a common feature of all empires. The reality is that most people are too busy for either politics or morality.



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