If your comment might contain flamebait, please edit it until it clearly doesn't.
It is hard work and we (well, many of us) appreciate it.
It was located via thermal image which I find interesting for something that far away.
Also, the mission includes an orbiter with a number of scientific instruments for studying the Moon which is still going strong.
I have the impression that would leave a big mark
ISRO should be very proud of their accomplishments. The people saying that India should worry about their starving population first and foremost don't understand that:
a.) populations feed themselves, there is no government on Earth that has ever successfully fed its population
b.) ISRO has been able to recover a large part of its costs by launching foreign payloads
c.) ISRO provides non-bureaucratic pencil pushing jobs for Indians, in particular the sorts of jobs for some of the brightest Indians who would otherwise be very likely to leave the country for better prospects
d.) We all benefit from the sort of science being done here, today
I understand the need to avoid flamewars, but I also believe that there is still a very strong contingent of people on HN that use it as a place to discuss things like this in a mature and appropriate way. Speaking only for myself, this is one of the reasons I like HN so much. It’s become more difficult as we’ve grown, but that’s to be expected. I hope we don’t lose the ability to have reasonable discussions of otherwise controversial topics :(
My own understanding is that India's rise makes people uncomfortable because they can no longer think that there's this mass of people who's worse off than them. India's accomplishments challenge their worldview and their place in it. I have indeed noticed this trend amongst people who aren't well off themselves. They are extra vocal and vicious in their attacks.
Earlier, this used to affect me. And I would try to correct them, even have arguments. But I have accepted this now. India and others should just ignore them as it's not really a constructive criticism and double down on all growth attempts
There's some real technical talent within India, and I've had the pleasure of working with some of that talent during my day job. Even though this mission was ultimately a failure, that it got as far as it did is a testament to their accomplishments. Space is hard.
Bravo team, continue learning as much as you can about where things went wrong, and may your future endeavors be even more successful!
I am not sure the balance is correct (it's absurd that as a PIO my investment opportunities are better not only than other foreign investors, but citizens too), but it's arguable and worth thinking about.
When Israel's lander crashed there were lots of negative comments as well.
I think some people are just ... I don't know, just not good people.
I’m Indian (though I emigrated to the west when I was a teenager), and I consider myself pro-Indian, and I also consider it to be pro-Indian to give a voice to India’s less fortunate population. Personally I support programs to reduce poverty with greater enthusiasm than I support space exploration. In my view there is nothing about that that is offensive to India, in fact it elevates the majority of India’s population.
HN readers come here for intellectual curiosity: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. There's no such curiosity in reciting pre-existing agendas about who's defaming whose nation excessively or insufficiently. That already is always off topic here. Worse, it provokes others into stepping further into the inner circles of hell. We already saw that below.
Im gonna say it because Dang apparently isnt (to this comment)
I’m thankful dang gave me the opportunity to change.
Secondly, if you think this doesn't play into international perception of India at the moment, I'm not sure what would be on topic.
I presume that by 'enemies of India' you allude to Pakistan, but it's also possible that vindictively negative comment could come from racists in the US or other countries who feel antipathy towards India. This isn't uncommon in software development where such people seem sadly over-represented.
Extemely proud of ISRO.
This is not true. There are many structural aspects to alleviating hunger and governments definitely play a big role in improving or exacerbating them.
That being said, it’s crazy that you insist on taking this thread on a political tangent, but I’m not surprised.
Any time there’s a discussion on India’s space program or general poverty in India, honor killings, killings over cows/beef, I see (presumably) Indian people somehow bring Pakistan into the discussion (India ranks X at Y, but Pakistan is X - 1), even though there’s no other mention of Pakistan.
Another observation from when I contracted in energy is that many Indian colleagues suspected a new hire was Pakistani and purposely excluded him and went out of their way to not share information.
The unhealthy obsession with Pakistan doesn’t make sense. I’ve seen this in so many Indians (anecdotally of course) that I wonder how it goes to this. Sure they’ve been fighting over Kashmir for half a century or something. I get that India has a lot of poverty. I suspect the Indian news media has its own share of the Fox News of the world who probably prey on the poor or uneducated and brainwash them into hating Pakistanis.
Chill out for once. Even if the rover didn’t land successfully, this is still huge progress.
And I suspect ISRO compromised on critical aspects during simulation due to cost cutting.
We have launched many more successful launches which cost nothing compared to NASA