And then you become, you know, 12 years old, a teenager, and you gravitate toward Han Solo, who seems like a bad person, but ultimately he is good. And when you're kind of going through adolescence, you sort of like the idea of being perceived as a dangerous individual, even though you still sort of identify as being good.
"But when you really become adult, you're no longer looking at characters — fictional or unfictional — as aspirational. You kind of are the person you are. And now when you look at characters, you kind of want to see things in them that help you understand yourself. So I feel, as an adult, the character you care about the most is Darth Vader. The maturation process seems to move a person toward relating to and understanding villainous personalities.
Can confirm, based on my undergrad experience. Virtually none of the students (myself included) were yet at the level of maturity expected of them.
Yes, she's a smart cookie -- but more than that, the other smart people around her? They just weren't mature and serious enough to excel.
Can confirm, I was a shit student until around 25 or 26 years old.
His later work, collaborating with Lisa Lehey is more actionable, in a work context, but builds on the foundations outlines here.
ETA: From the (Stanford) article this thread is attached to...
> Kegan (Robert) introduced his theory of self-evolution in 1982 in his book, The Evolving Self. In his later book, In over Our Heads: The Mental Demands of Modern Life (1994), he presented a revised version of his theory and further discussion of the implications of his work for society.
Of those two books, The Evolving Self is the easier read. I would start with that one.
Also, Zachary Stein's Lectica project has a video showing Kegan among other adult developmental psychologists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0PDUK3tcN0
This idea is awesome, and is common sense in eastern philosophy. First generation Americans, or anyone who finds themselves the venn between multiple diagrams of culture, can also arrive to this pretty quick. Everyone's ideas are limited to the experiences that produced them, but it's embarrassing for western science on the whole for it to shirk the east when it comes to the realm of inner experience.
Also, why do you say that the theory builds upon this? I didn't find it to be an important part of the theory.
In state 0 such discovery just hasn't happened yet.
The distinction made by the stupidest causal temporal relationships from senses with some built-in importance in them.
I recently started meditating and read "The Power of Now". I think without those two things I would be completely lost. It's still hard but I can feel myself getting stronger in the face of all this.
Kegan's theories and philosophies seem similar, but the Human soul would not just be limited to 5 potential stages, as Kegan described. Probably, Kegan himself has been limited to acquiring just a 5th stage, but these stages are possibly unlimited.
According to the Urantia book, by eventually becoming so spiritual, the body can no longer contain the Spirit, so it will automatically proceed to a next stage bypassing death, like what happened to Jesus Christ, Elijah the Prophet, and Enoch in the Holy Bible.
I simply gave my perception of the narrative of this book and contrasted it with Kegan's theory, after seeing similarity. What is there possibly to be angry at me for?