I really like all of these independent tablet/laptop/phone projects! I'm just a little worried that people will pick them up thinking they'll be just like an Android/iOS tablet and end up blaming the company making it.
For your reference the first batch (10pcs) EVT boards is about ~90USD a piece: https://i.imgur.com/anUASlT.jpg
Even updating it to say "it will likely be in the $100-$200 range due to material cost and production fees" is fine: that's a _huge_ range, and still better than "we don't know, figure it out yourself".
Is component selection conducted without any price consideration?
However, when you go into production and order parts from distributors, you will usually get special deals which can lower the price of your product. Problems can also appear if one of your single source components is out of stock, then you will have to wait (probably a long time) for it to get back in stock, choose an alternative (probably more expensive) component, or buy it on the gray market.
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So somewhat related, check out Strange Parts on YouTube. His past couple of few videos involve him building a Samsung Galaxy from components in Shenzhen and then having it x-rayed by a place that (as one of their functions) identifies counterfeit parts.
In the video with the x-ray they talk about reclaimed and counterfeit parts and you can see differences between what was supposed to be a real camera module and an actual real camera module in one of the x-rays.
"I'd be surprised if the retail price ends up being less than $___ or more than $___"
As in: is the trend downwards (my expectation), upwards (would be a surprise), or perhaps varying (market showing major shifts). And by how much.
A comparable concept is the bug burn-down charts the Debian project has produced over the past decade or two, which hugely assist with getting some sense of when "when it's ready" might be.
And sure, wrap the information in all the "this is not a price committment" language you care to.
What is the target price range you expect people to pay for such product, above which it wouldn't be worth producing?
For price range I would say kano computer kit touch or raspad tablet are all good products and provide good reference.
Maybe the totally wrong place to ask, but that display looks great. Any ideas where to get one of those?
This is an open source product, and not consumer-grade in the least, so I imagine hobbyists wouldn't be opposed to doing that legwork.
This was just after the launch of RPi1 and well before Adafruit had all the cool parts that just work out of the box.
The coolest part about it was that the screen, computer, and battery were all modular with velcro and electrical plugs. So the metal case had the regulators and Pi, the black case held the batteries. In under a minute I could remove the screen and Pi from the battery pack and velcro it into all into my car.
They started off using the compute module, but ended up switching to the Nvidia Jetson Nano. Both of these projects make me wish for a world where a standard pin-out in this SODIMM format arises and we could see some inter-operable competition like we have with PC desktop parts.
Just these days I was wondering which tablet would be able to run Ubuntu Touch or something alike and while support for "real" tablets seems to be quite rare, there are quite a few tablet projects based on the Raspberry Pi. I hope this will continue.
After all, free software is all about choices.
There's very little in the way of 'real' power management solutions for the PI and a myriad of 'power down when the battery is low' solutions ... is a decent, cheap, reliable fuel gauge hat just too much to ask for? :D
So yay battery percentage! ;-)
I think I am looking for easy to follow instructions for dads
I've learned more and had much more fun making little toys, programming basic displays, getting sensor data, etc with arduino and other microcontroller development boards. There is too much already going on in a raspberry pi for it to really be a "blank canvas" for maker projects. Hence you see all of these projects where they are essentially repurposing the existing rpi, not creating their own thing with it. Its not really a "maker" project. Its more like building a computer.
Plus, you will find way more true maker projects targeted for kids for microcontroller development than you would for raspberry pi.
Plus, Arduino has a specialized c/c++ library for it which makes things just awesome for starting out. It's like writing python - stupid easy.
Count me in. I would replace my laptop with this.
So I would want something like this when I program the Rasperry Pi to say control a robotic arm somewhere. Then I want to be able to pull the rasperry pi out of this tablet and actually place it in the robotic arm module.
So if I have several projects going on like auto fish feeder and / or auto plant waterer.... I want to be able to bring the tablet around attach the rasperry pi to it too make changes.
While the demo looks like this is what is happening I'm assuming that the final product is basically like a phone, the pi is eternally stuck inside the tablet?
$200 is too much for something like a auto plant waterer but $30 for the pi is perfect for this. Therefore make the tablet interface a module to the pi. That's the whole point right? Otherwise why use the pi over my phone? there's no point.
Also, most Android/Windows OEMs low-end tablets are 1280 x 800, so I'm guessing higher-res screens strain their batteries and GPU too much for them to be viable?
It's really a cool device. I mean if I can do whatever I want on a handheld device, I'd be ready to pay 150 euros for it. Android phones are useless if the OS is a walled garden.
So either the photo is not genuine or the pictured device is using a Raspberry Pi 4 (possibly a pre-release Compute Module thereof).
More info regarding Pi3 arch https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=140572
But am I the only one who is confused why they created a main board instead of just using a Pi model B? Most of the things on their board (usb, hdmi, wifi, Bluetooth, card slot, etc) are already there in a Pi. Especially since the boards are about $90 each...
Of course we made our first prototype with Pi3, and it ended up looking like this: https://i.imgur.com/gqUAdDa.jpg :P
Oh by the way we're not using HDMI display so it'll be cheaper (and thinner) too.
But it's not scalable, and I'm not particularly good at soldering. ;-)
The compute model is the right choice for an actual product (i.e. making more than one), but for someone trying to jam a pi into a thin space, removing the ports is almost as thin. Plus you don't also need a motherboard.
The compute module is also still waiting for it's BCM2711 refresh, another reason it's not the same thing. But when that does arrive, if it's just a case of swapping the modules that'll be a brilliant upgrade for this project.
I'm curious about this part. Their Github only has their website, hardware design, firmware and drivers: https://github.com/cutiepi-io/
As a long-term Qt user, you can find my other tablet-related projects on Github, for example the browser https://github.com/penk/SlateKit/tree/master/Shell
What I'd really love to see / make is a pre-packaged raspberry pi robot with wheels, cameras, microphones, simple LIDAR, IR lights for night vision and a simple grabber arm. Cheap, nicely built, durable robot.
I'm not a hardware guy but if someone wants to partner, I wanna do a kickstarter someday.
(finger crossed for CM4?)
Compared to mainland China, people in Taiwan seem more eager to integrate with the world. Open source is popular in mainland China too, but English is not.
This thing they're building seems awesome.
This is definitely not the case. There are almost no android tablets that people have even bothered figuring out how to boot normal linux on, and I'm not sure there are ANY that have complete driver support.
Other than this your best bet would probably be to try to find an x86 tablet from 5 years ago and even those are a huge pain to use linux on.
1) you have access to the Raspbian and Pi ecosystem
2) it has actual usable UI, commercial-grade I would say
The whole idea of this project is to help makers to be portable with their projects. The display is optional.
I'm excited about the extra compute available from the RPi4, but obviously the CM4 isn't out yet.
I'm also excited about Pi4, but on the other hand worried about thermal issue...
>Roses are red.
>Math is pretty fly.
>I like your smarts.
>So why not be my cutie 3.14159
Also, double-opt-in for e-mail should be the default now. This screams 'scam' to me.
A Fire Tablet is probably on par for power and is fully integrated with a touch screen and battery, and with discounts it costs almost or cheaper than a bare Pi.
I feel like we bend over backwards to try to use the Raspberry Pi to do cool things, but a lot of these projects can be developed more easily and powered by a more consistent framework using a Fire Tablet.
Speaking of modifying existing hardwares, Nexus 7 is my personal favorite: http://i.imgur.com/8H9LH9U.jpg
If you don't find it limited with locked device, you're simply not playing hard enough. :-))