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What do you mean by "now"? Which clock are you talking about? A clock here on Earth?

Clocks here on Earth currently read May 13th, 2019. And you can conclude that we observed the event on May 13th, 2019. We believe the black hole is approx. 26,000 light years away. Thus we know the light took 26,000 years to reach us. So we say the event took place around 23,981 BC.

We have 3 events here:

A. A clock on Earth reading May 13th, 2019

B. Light from the black hole flare reaching Earth

C. The black hole flaring

We can say that A and B occurred simultaneously in all reference frames (they occurred at the same location and at the same time). C did not occur simultaneously with A or B in any reference frame (except perhaps, debatably, that of something moving at the speed of light).




> Clocks here on Earth currently read May 13th, 2019.

Are you sure that we are in the same reference frame? I’m willing to accept that you started a fairly short journey at some appreciable fraction of C, turned around and gave just recently arrived back home, but I’m going to need some proof.


Hahah, oops. I assumed the date given by parent was today's date and didn't think about it much. I guess I should have said August 13, 2019. My bad.


I guess I’m just struggling to see how there is any useful sense in which the event happened in 20,000 B.C. from our perspective when it would be impossible for it to have had any causal effect on us until May. I don’t think this is a disagreement in the basic understanding of relativity, but rather a disagreement in semantics.


If a baby fall in another room and you only hear them crying half an hour later, it doesn't mean the baby just got hurt. Both you and the baby still agree when it happened, you just learned about it later.

The same is true regarding the black hole flare. Except that we are not only learning about it now due to negligence, but because we, with all current knowledge in physics we have and also our technology, we don't have a way to see what's happening right now. But say an astronomer finds a wormhole and points their telescope to it. They could know about things that will only be visible by everyone else in 26,000. Time to invest in those black hole futures.




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