Apple, Amazon, MSFT and Google.
Are you confusing the Chinese company with the Chinese government?
Are you comfortables with USA government staging illegal Iraqi war (one of many), that resulted in close to a million death (at least)? With direct complicit help from many USA based companies?
What exactly are we comparing here, or are we cherry-picking ignorance?
Worse yet that bedroom webcam from Amazon. Idek who approved that.
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Yep, yep, private firms in the west are harvesting our data and using it in not-so-great ways. Same with our security agencies. But... imperfect though they may be, we do have many tools with which to hold them accountable and affect change, even if the odds might be stacked against us most of the time.
Not to mention, we've seen how bad western companies tend to be at securing data (e.g. Equifax) - its not going to be any better in China or elsewhere.
- you're not in or near China
- you are not a Chinese national or a relative of one
- you are not operating in international human rights law
Then arguably the Chinese government has less power over you than the US one, or indeed Google.
- Do people not think the US is a democracy? Why? Russiagate?
- Do people think the US generally murders you for protesting?
- Do people think that Tiananmen Square didn't happen?
- Implying that being US-centric by default is okay
- Implying that the US (police) does not arbitrarily murder people for doing things they do not like (including protesting)
Those are two things that stood out to me as surprising points of view.
I'm not one of you.
Glad to know as long as its not one of you its all OK. As if the rest of the world doesn't know it.
Chinese Government does terrible things to its own people, but doesn't do terrible things to the rest of the world.
Pick your poison.
I'm pretty sure I can hear people laughing, as they are reading that. However, it really is true.
Can Snowden speak openly about NSA hacking?
In China there are some checks and balances, but they are just ineffective and often ignored too. In the USA there are stronger due processes, but there are also more subtle ways to abuse them.
There is a difference, but it’s not really as material as it sounds.
When was the last time it happened, if ever?
Or take a look at the spotlight in the US being shined on immigration and the treatment of asylum seekers, today. Imagine a version of events where there is no such spotlight. That fight is still ongoing, and the outcome is uncertain... but would their situation be better or worse?
The US is also engaged in many, many humanitarian efforts all around the world - that is in part because these efforts are supported by the people.
China has never in the history of its existence, bombed the shit out of other countries, killing millions in the guise of freedom. Overthrew legitimately elected government, and supplied weapons to create conflict. Never.
What are the Chinese going to do with my personal conversations? Apart from use it for marketing, for which there are already much easier ways of collecting data.
I'm far more worried about MY government collecting data and being in a position to make real use of it. Western corporations are more likely to play ball with western governments.