True. I hope you guys get proper funding and keep this project on.
(I was thinking a Slack or Discord would be better than Google groups mailing list for this?)
Also I'm prefer to avoid Google services 'cause privacy issues.
Seriously though, those services are fine on a powerful tower PC plugged into the wall, but if you're on the move on battery power, they are unbearable.
For example, the Elm community has both. The Discourse forum is technical and business-only yet there's a clean record of these discussions. The Slack chat is where I hang out, get to know people, and participate in more relaxed chit chat about Elm, webdev, and building applications.
Elm used to just have a mailing list but it was obsoleted and shut down with the creation of the Slack group and Discourse forum which were far more popular.
Any community that only has a mailing list could benefit from experimenting with a proper forum. I've seen this experiment broaden a community time and time again as you move away from only selecting for the type of person who likes mailing lists. And notice that HN isn't a mailing list either.
For example, I would imagine that the sort of people interested in high-quality ebooks extend beyond mailing list loving super-techies. Even a subreddit would be a nice option.
Some people might say it's useful and others might say it encourages people to comment first and possibly focus on polishing the comment second.
It's not very full-featured yet, but it's so fantastic I want to pay for it. It's a shame the companies themselves don't offer clients like it.
Mailing lists only really work for corporations imo
> Mailing lists only really work for corporations imo
We've steered off topic though. Feel free to email me if you want to chat further on the topic.
Is there any way we can contact you on slack or discord instead?
Can just have both.
But! If someone from SE is reading this and it turns out that you just don't have a way to donate because it doesn't seem like people will donate, definitely put a paypal button or something out there. :)
So so far not need for contributions, and it makes things simpler to not need them.
Otherwise, I'm sure some organization will be happy to provide some bandwidth in exchange for a shoutout.
Here's a lengthy village pump discussion, with no outcome: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy...
Look at the word counts for some of the discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=dash&pre...
Some of these discussions end up on Arbcom which is pretty severe: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitra...
It seems a lot of people do care, passionately, about the difference between "" and “”.
And, of course, fixing more errors is of course a noble goal. Are these corrections going to make it upstream to Gutenberg?
It's an issue worth raising to the team. In the spirit of GPL, I think reporting any instances of clear typos in the source text upstream would be a good idea.
The problem is that so much work is done to the text as part of StandardEbook production that we can't exactly just submit a single patch or diff. It would be difficult to identify the textual corrections from stylistic changes in an automatic way, unless we were to enforce typo corrections to occur in a single commit. We're currently encouraged to use an [Editorial] tag when modernizing spelling such as "any one" -> "anyone", so perhaps we should see about a [Transcription Error] tag for obvious typos.
The upshot is that all of the books' sources are hosted on GH. So an interested party could, in theory, review the commit history and pull out what look to be typo corrections. See, for example:
Failing that, the contributor could simply manually keep track of any typos they fix and report them to GP.
Fixing typos is fine I guess, but books are the result of an era and grammar or writing style is an inherent part of a book that should not be altered.
Editing is a lot work, and their efforts are appreciated. But most of that involves the application of existing rules (curly quotes etc.) and therefore doesn't meet the creativity standard of copyright.
I guess the texts are out there anyway, and it doesn't make much of a difference. But I'm reminded of the art world, where many a painting is long out of copyright, yet only the Museums have access and the insist setting up a lightbox and taking a photo is a creative endeavour worthy of protection from the prying eyes of the non-paying public.
> [T]hose who are hesitant to use photos of works that are in the public domain […] should know that under the law if the image is “slavish,” a mere reproduction, a plain unadorned exact image, they can use it and do not have to pay anyone a licensing fee.
It covers a plethora of subjects, but devotes a few chapters to the Difference Engine and the political difficulties in getting it funded. Bonus MathML (rendered to PNGs in most readers but real for the Kobo), and all diagrams support both normal and white-on-black dark mode if you’re got your reader set up like that.
I’ve never really been able to get it to work with calibre, pretty much the standard go to piece of software for all things ebooks.
I would be interested in hearing about any tips for getting an opds working.
curl -s https://standardebooks.org/opds/all | grep -oE "/(.*).azw3" | sed -e"s/^/https:\/\/standardebooks.org/" | xargs -n 1 curl -O
I've finally gotten around to reading many of the classics using your ePub files.
I have many of these in epub from Gutenberg, but plan to replace them with your versions when I have some time.
I know others have already asked about bulk download--have you considered offering a torrent of the full library or possibly one for each file format?
> Types of eBooks we don't accept
> * Non-English-language books. Translations to English are, of course, OK.
I don't see any rationale for it on the mailing list, only a message from Alex Cabal two years ago stating "not at the moment": https://groups.google.com/d/msg/standardebooks/JdVpCm3ckGg/i...
Alex explicitly does not want the "Standard Ebooks" name or mailing list used to coordinate similar projects elsewhere (including other primarily English-language nations), due to copyright issues: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/standardebooks/qRDTb-hHMxk/z...
Nor is Alex aware of any other similar projects: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/standardebooks/ikg07cqkABY/Q...
Absolutely. To the extent that I have trouble focusing on texts I know to be translations, unless there are inescapably good reasons for them to be, i.e. they come from a language I have no chance of understanding.
Currently battling to resurrect my highschool German. Getting there, but cursing myself for not starting out with something a wee bit more accessible than Thomas Mann...
Is there a wishlist of tools/software out there that someone could contribute to?
"This ebook is only thought to be free of copyright restrictions in the United States. It may still be under copyright in other countries. If you’re not located in the United States, you must check your local laws to verify that the contents of this ebook are free of copyright restrictions in the country you’re located in before downloading or using this ebook."
Can anyone speak to this?
Unless I'm missing a trick, it seems like you have to use Calibre (or some other application) to re-build the "azw3" file with the cover thumbnail properly embedded. Why not just ship the ebook files like that to begin with?
>>>Thanks to a long-standing bug in the Kindle software, side-loaded ebooks don’t display cover images automatically. "
I'd also like to mention feedbooks which have a very nicely set of curated ebooks:
(I have no affiliation with them)
Notice the gray margin outside the sheet, and the padding inside the sheet. The first one gives you a general frame of view, and also you don't want the document to use the whole screen width when using a 16:9 monitor or similar screen.
The padding is necessary because you don't want characters too close to a margin, else they look like they're escaping the sheet.
I haven't been able to replicate this setup with Calibre, FBReader or any other epub reader.
Fonts are another issue. Default fonts always suck. FBReader uses Dejavu Serif, that, in my opinion looks just bad. I changed it to Bitstream Charter, which looks decent, but then the line justification looked wrong, I changed that, and then paragraph margin looked wrong. There's a million little things that look horrible by default and you have to spend an hour per book setting up your reader so that it looks right.
I've tried generating PDFs with Calibre, the result: giant ugly fonts, zero sheet padding, nonsensical spacing, etc.
At some point you just give up and avoid epubs like the plague.
[#] The book is called Crypto 101, by lvh.
If anything, I think an HTML version that you can view right on the website would be the best format addition. It's always interesting to me when a website doesn't offer a browser-native document format as an option to view text.
I could spend the time trying to make them look right, but I don't want to spend my time that way. I prefer learning things that will give me more satisfaction per second spent.
I find any of them far superior to PDF.
Another ebook non-profit I'd like to see is one that shepherds books through the copyright maze. No doubt there are scads of books in the public domain that no one has proven are actually there. Perhaps this exists already but it strikes me as a good separate, and highly targeted, kind of effort.
You can also associate a Kindle with an email address, and email files to that address. The file appears as part of your cloud collection.
For sideloading, the books need to be azw3 or mobi. For emailing the book needs to be mobi. In either case epub is not accepted.
The only functionality issue I run in to is that as far as I can tell, Amazon has a feature where if you buy the book from them then they keep your progress synced between your kindle and their phone apps. Can't use that with books from other sources.
I have a Kobo that lets you read even more formats than Kindle, like .cbz for comics.
Question: how is Philip K Dick in public domain already?
It should still work if you transfer it over USB, but if you're trying to do it all wirelessly, simply download the EPUB and convert it to MOBI, and you should be good to go.
> Do convert from logical punctuation to American punctuation where possible.
Now consider something similar for Audiobooks.