> For example, when you do a search on Ecosia we forward the following information to our partner, Bing: IP address, user agent string, search term, and some settings like your country and language setting.
So when a search is done, our IP address is send to Bing.
I really love the idea of planting trees from profit, and have nothing against ecosia. Just commented to inform readers.
Before getting downvoted into oblivion, I would like to make it clear that I'm not saying ecosia is unethical or that everyone should stop using it because of this. For some it matters, for some it doesn't and ecosia seems a great choice for those whom this doesn't matter. I'm just posting it so that those who do care(about their IP being send to Bing) can be aware(since I wasn't for a few months).
>So when a search is done, our IP address is send to Bing.
Explain why you believe that's a negative? If you use Bing normally they would know your IP as well
>user agent string
Again, using bing normally will allow them to see this information
Obviously required to be sent to bing
>some settings like your country and language setting
Again, this is information that would be available to Bing if you use their service normally
I'm a bit uncomfortable in letting MicroSoft associate my IP with what I search daily. I use GitHub and Linkedin and most of the time I'm logged in to at least one of those services. Now I don't know for sure if Bing associates these searches to my account based on the IP(someone can shed some light on this?). StartPage and DuckDuckGo both use third party searches but they don't share user IP(https://support.startpage.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Artic...)
For other details like search term, country etc... I absolutely understand that they are needed to be send. I just quoted them as a sentence.
If it wasn't for the IP sharing, I would be a happy ecosia user :)
I can only assume ecosia share this data with Microsoft because doing so has allowed them to land a more lucrative deal.
Not sure how DDG and other search engines that rely on Bing does it, but it’s certainly possible without sharing the users’ IP with Microsoft.
So it is probably possible.
> Results are customized to the location or market of the user. The location or market can be determined implicitly (via IP address) or configured explicitly.
> Many web services collect user data in order to sell it without asking your permission. We don’t sell your data or your searches to advertising companies.
> We protect your searches from potential eavesdroppers with a securely encrypted connection. This way we make sure that nobody between you and us can see your searches.
If they’re just handing everything off to Bing wholesale, are these quotes either misleading or straight up lies? The first one I’m confused about with the “anonymize all searches within one week”. I don’t know what that means. The second seems like Bing could still do those things. And the last one would be a lie considering Bing can see it.
We don’t create personal profiles of you based on your search history. (but our partner Bing might)
We don’t sell your data or your searches to advertising companies. (but our partner Bing is and hands us a piece of the rewards)
It’s disingenuous and misleading to the average user. They should be criticized for it.
How would that be a lie. They protect from eavesdroppers, as in someone intercepting the connection and trying to extract data being transmitted within a system. Bing is part of the whole system, not a third party trying to eavesdrop.
Finally, they say they don't allow anyone between you and them - which is different from allowing between them and a third party, but I'm sure they would use an encrypted connection even when communicating with Bing.
I think their page touting “privacy” should clearly indicate that they use Bing and that your privacy is ultimately beholden to Microsoft, not Ecosia, especially since Ecosia is happy to send unique identifiers to Bing for personalized search results as default.
It feels like a deftly move to offload their own responsibility to then be able to tout privacy as a selling point because they themselves don’t do anything with your information, Microsoft does.
I'm much more comfortable to give some information to Microsoft then giving more information to Google so they can add it to my profile they already have.
I know it's not a problem for most, especially if they are using search engines like Bing or Google. And I believe it's better to use ecosia than using say, Bing or Google.