USB 3.0! Gigabit Ethernet! WiFi 802.11ac, BT 5.0, 4GB RAM! 4K! $55 at most?!
What the!? How the??! I know I'm not maintaining decorum at Hacker News, but I am SO mighty, MIGHTY excited!
I'm setting up a VPN to hook this (when I get it) to my VPS and then do a LOT of fun stuff back and forth, remotely, and with the other RPI at my folks.
Using the Pi as a file server can be a bit flaky. The ethernet controller was an USB one, and was neither really stable or took load very well. The new PHY on a dedicated link is probably the single biggest improvement with this new revision.
The HEVC is a bit unexpected considering the high license fees and general uncertainties. Let's hope the documentation can be released as well.
So unsure at this stage, but that may well be the case for any license fees regarding HVEC. Heck, if they have absorbed those costs into the base price - I'd be utterly amazed.
I just setup my RockPro64 with 4GB, also PCIex4, have an SSD, going to setup a raid at somepoint when I get it all figured out. The board was a bit more expensive than the pi4, but I am interested in playing around with it.
But it looks like its back ordered for awhile
Hmm... that explains a problem I had with a pi of mine. Every time the 10/100 switch it was connected to rebooted, the pi would lose its ethernet link until rebooted. Never had this with other machines on the same switch.
Does it have PoE? Having to deal with one less cable would be nice.
Especially given that the latest spec, IEEE 802.3bt from September 2018, now allows for up to 100W per port:
IMHO, if one is going to do one of these types of embedded systems, then PoE should really be part of the design process from the beginning.
They're using the Ethernet on the BCM2711, and Broadcom has sadly deemed PoE not needed I guess.
The PoE HAT had a bunch of issues:
They released a new version quite a while ago.
I agree that it would be nice if PoE was built in, but there are better ways to say that than what you said.
Also, the HAT has a transformer (and I assume if they included it, they know what they are doing), which seems like it would be too much for every single Pi to include one.
It doesn't draw anywhere near that. 15W max (for accessories), and 7W in heavy use (without anything other than the board itself).
Why plug in two cables (USB-C (power) and Ethernet (comms)) when you can just plug in one?
The big shortcoming of the other Raspberry Pis I have is power. Plug anything into it and you risk undervoltage problems (even with the official supply)
[ 49.910905] Under-voltage detected! (0x00050000)
[ 76.949928] Voltage normalised (0x00000000)
[ 436.806032] rpi_firmware_get_throttled: 1 callbacks suppressed
[ 436.806038] Voltage normalised (0x00000000)
[ 438.886093] rpi_firmware_get_throttled: 2 callbacks suppressed
[ 438.886100] Under-voltage detected! (0x00050000)
[ 445.126338] Voltage normalised (0x00000000)
Would be nice to build a NAS with as few cables as possible.
For example, recently I plugged in a USB stick and a webcam and couldn't boot. So I would boot, then then plug in the webcam ... carefully. And there were still 2 usb ports free.
(I speak as someone who sucks at programming and doesn't spend a 1/100th of the time learning the latest as I used too as a teen. So having the community around to help with my latest project that I need something more than a microcontroller for, is immensely worthwhile. Obviously those who don't need these types of spillovers would probably be better served with other hardware.)
I mentioned it above, but just to reiterate- there are lots of great hardware boards out there and many beat the Pi (though the 4 makes up the different finally). However, they ALL have terrible software support: old OS's, bad drivers, out of date or incomplete documentation.
The Pi community makes it worth it to stay there.
RPis pretty much never go on sale.
Then you should also compare the Chrombooks with second hand large format laptops, old servers on sale with new ones and so on.
Chromebooks 'on sale' are an entirely different class of product than raspberry pi's, they are larger, need wall power, have built in batteries and screens, are in general still more expensive and do not have GPIO.
Pretty much everything works on the existing rpi. Heck you can run Windows IoT on it. It has a UEFI firmware (edk2) port which mostly complete, and pretty much every distro and 3rd party OS supports it. And the hardware itself is mostly open at this point.
If you're doing stuff that needs the Jetson, it's great, but the Pi is definitely better supported.
A57 and A72 are very close in performance, as the A72 is an evolution of the A57. ARM's numbers have the A72 around 20-30% faster than the A57. The main advantage of the A72 was it fixed the horrific power problems the A57 had so in a phone usage you could actually use the CPU for longer than 10 seconds. But in raw performance it wasn't that much of a jump. A53 to A72 is around 2-3x as fast, though. A53 was the power efficient one. A57 was the performance one.
Both the Jetson Nano & Pi4 are clocked at around 1.5ghz, so the Pi4 should still eek out a bit of a CPU performance gap over the Nano. But if you're purely comparing factory vs. factory then the Nano would probably win over longer stretches as the Pi4's lack of heatsink results in it throttling down to around 1ghz after a few minutes. The Nano looks like it has a beefy enough heatsink to keep the A57's churning for a lot longer at their 1.43ghz spec.
- New SoC puts out more heat. Active cooling more important now.
- Video playback at 4K requires H.265
- Micro-HDMI cables now needed.
- Draws more power.
Other than that, looks like a major performance boost.
Not really a con IMO, I haven't seen anything on a 4k bluray encoded in h.264, everything seems to be 265. The microHDMI is kind of a bummer though.
I actually wonder if the A72 CPUs onboard are fast enough to do software h.264 4k decode. They might be.
Could you provide some details? The USB-adapted ethernet & lack of wifi sounds limiting for a NAS.
The existing rpi lines are seriously IO bandwidth constrained in every manner. The USB3 on the 4 hopefully fixes some of this. Bottom line, unless you don't mind your photo's taking minutes to copy, your going to be much better off with pretty much anything else besides a rpi3 as a file server.
It sets up systemd and iptables and generates all certs and keys and wraps them up into tidy, per-client .ovpn files
I have had gigabit internet for a few years now, and every day on average, I torrent a Blu-Ray image onto my main computer. However, subsequently moving the Blu-Ray to my Raspberry Pi 3 media center is always slow on two counts: 1) ethernet from the router to the Pi was limited to 10/100 speeds, and 2) the Pi could push large files to an attached hard drive only over a USB 2.0 port. Consequently, on a Raspberry Pi 1–3 it takes an hour just to move a high-definition file around one’s home network! On a Pi 4, it looks like one can just put the torrent client directly on the media center.
Keep in mind that you are in a very small world there... most people alive today will never have internet that fast, personally i've never had a connection above 6 Mbits in the middle of a city, and I know that's likely above the median globally (keep in mind average is a poor metric due to connections like yours, SDL is still the primary type of endpoint for homes)
My point being, the previous generations USB based ethernet still has massive headroom for the vast majority of peoples internet.
The board is a bit more expensive, but you can probably get it faster than the pi4 at the moment.
The Dietpi community seems to be pretty great, any issues I ran into were answered pretty quickly
My understanding is that the RockPro64 has pcie slots on it, which allows Sata boards so you can connect drives directly without usb. Personally, I'm more interested in the odroid-h2, with the native Sata. Unfortunately, it costs far more ($111 without ram) and has no wireless connectivity built in.
I put together a NAS/Plex box with a Kaby Lake Celeron and some hard drives, but I was thinking of splitting it out into separate NFS and Plex servers.
The model 3B+ already had this though.
Just read theverge review on how the Pi struggles to play a video full screen, even if resolution is 480p. How are then people using it as a media center?
Are you sure the writer didn't use the board the wrong way? Some people still believe that videos should be streamed after being transcoded because that is the only way to watch them on their ridiculously limited smart TV which lacks the necessary codecs to watch them the right way. Of course doing this over WiFi would make the problem even worse.
To optimize network usage, videos should be kept encoded until they reach the player so that the network won't be clogged. If you use the PI to read the movie as a file over a shared SMB or NFS directory, the network usage is so low that you could watch like 20 different movies on 20 different players on the same home network at the same time. Probably even more.
The PI 3 (and to some extent probably the PI4 too) is still behind many other boards in other contexts (openness, performance, price) but playing video is surely not one of them.
I'm not sure that transcoding has anything to do with it, unless the transcoding was happening on the Pi itself (which would indeed be dumb). Most of the time people are transcoding things it's x264 -> x264 with Plex, just with a much lower bitrate (and probably 720p) because (as you say) their player's platform can't handle it and no one cares about video quality these days.
Tom’s Hardware’s review notes that the hardware is able to handle many everyday tasks such as web browsing with up to 15 Chromium tabs, light image editing using GIMP, and document and spreadsheet work using LibreOffice. Unsurprisingly, the sub-$100 miniature PC has its limits. It reportedly struggles with full screen video playback from YouTube for example, even if you turn down the resolution to 480p.
Tom's Hardware were using a pre-release OS so it's possible the issues with video playback were caused by this?
It’s important to note that, at launch time, some important Raspberry Pi software doesn’t yet work on the Pi 4. To run Pi 4, you’ll need to download a brand new build of the Raspbian OS, Raspbian Buster. And not everything runs in Buster yet. During testing, we found numerous Python libraries or other required packages that weren’t compatible with the new OS.
My biggest problems involved video playback. If I wanted to watch a YouTube video, I had to keep it in a window, because even in 480p resolution, it was jerky at full screen. The other task I’d like to perform is playing retro games, but as of this writing, the Retropie package of emulators doesn’t work with Pi 4.
During extensive hands-on testing, I found that, while the 4K at 30 Hz is tolerable, little things like the movement of the mouse pointer are a bit sluggish. If you have a 4K screen, you’re definitely better off going for the 60 Hz mode, but note that the added voltage may also cause your CPU to get hot and throttle more easily.
While surfing the web, looking at still images and just enjoying all the extra screen real estate of 4K is great, video playback is the Raspberry Pi 4’s Achille’s heel, at least as of this writing. Whether we were attempting to stream a 4K video or use a downloaded file, we never got a smooth, workable 4K experience, either in Raspbian Buster or LibreElec, an OS that runs the Kodi media player. Several H.264 encoded videos, including Tears of Steel, did not play at all or showed as a jumble of colours. Even the sample jelly fish videos that the folks at Kodi recommended for my testing appeared as still pictures with no movement. Clearly, there’s a lot of optimization that still needs to be done both on the OS and software side to make the Raspberry Pi 4 capable of playing 4K video.
Unfortunately, even streaming 1080p YouTube videos is a challenge at this point. Running at 1080p resolution, full screen video trailer for Stranger Things showed obvious jerkiness. However, the playback was smooth when I watched the same clip in a smaller window. The same problem occurred, even when I dropped the stream’s resolution down to 480p.
Playing offline 1080p videos works well, provided your screen is at 1920 x 1080 or lower resolution. A downloaded trailer of Avenger’s Endgame was perfectly smooth when I watched it using the VLC player.
tl;dr they "built a gaming pc" with a "wireless anti static bracelet", RAM installed in single channel, backwards PSU, terrible parts choices... don't trust the verge.
Mind, this is specifically running under Kodi, which is optimized as a media center, and is NOT running also a full desktop environment. Attmepting to do the same in, say, the stripped down Chromium browser was an exercise in frustration. That's always been a major limitation of the 3D acceleration in the Pi, as the libraries took a long while to mature and were always a bit hacky.
The announcement for proper OpenGL support and compositing in the desktop environment is huge for me. It seems like it'll finally push the Pi up into "workshop computer" territory that, while underpowered, should be just capable enough to run some of my always on operations and act as a lightweight CAD station for small parts. I ordered one as soon as I woke up and saw the announcement, and we'll see how well that works in practice.
they write "It reportedly struggles with full screen video playback from YouTube for example, even if you turn down the resolution to 480p."
I was surprised by this review too. Not sure where they get that from
The “more powerful computer” is a laptop, and it is only being used for torrenting the films because it has gigabit ethernet. I don’t want to have to leave it on all the time, and sometimes it is still packed in its case when I want to sit down and watch a film. Storing the films on a hard drive attached to the Pi is a lot more convenient.
I can't trust my main computer to be stable for that long, and certainly wouldn't want to rely on it for long-range contact.
It does suffice on average, but the bitrate changes a lot within the same file.
Even 4k doesn't seem to push past 50 Mbps, but I think that's because h.265/HEVC is more efficient for the same observed quality/CRF.
Blu-rays use H.264 High Level 4.1. That has a maximum bitrate (for a single buffer) of 50 Mbps. The average bitrate for an entire disc is usually closer to 25-30. Even the most extreme cases, like the mastered-in-4K Lawrence of Arabia, have peaks at about 48 Mbps, and average bitrates of about 42 Mbps.
If you're having issues streaming Blurays on a 100 Mbps network, the speed of the network is not your problem!
Well, it COULD be the problem if you're not actually getting the 100 Mbps. I've diagnosed WiFi that should have a lot more headroom than 100 Mbps but still stutters on mid-bitrate 1080p. Signal degradation
Also, Ethernet does simply stops working way before 100% of the bandwidth is used.
I don't know why you expect things to run smoothly at 50% utilization.
(The upgrades look great, just my attention span is not so great)
* A Zero W hooked up to a PM2.5 to do air quality monitoring in the house. Just bought a couple more sensors for it (VOC, eCO2, etc), but haven't hooked them up yet.
* A 3B+ running the UniFi controller for my home network.
* One is running a custom Hue automation I built to shift the color temperature of the lights throughout the day.
* One is built into an internet connected dog treat dispenser I built as a gift.
* A rather dusty Pi is running CNCjs so I can have a decent interface to my cheap grbl CNC.
* And finally I have a Pi running OctoPrint for my 3D printer.
And that's just the ones currently running. I've got two more in progress. One to automate an exhaust fan based on inside and outside temperatures. Another is destined for the garage where it will replace the not-so-great MyQ "smart" functionality of the garage door opener.
To each their own I suppose, but I've been consuming RasPis like candy. $60 all-in gets you a fairly beefy platform with almost all the I/O you could require and a vast ecosystem of software and HATs. Honestly their only downside is that at some point I'll have to reconfigure my home network when I start exhausting my current internal /24 with 200 RasPis.
Do you have any resources on how to set up something like that?
Ooooh do you have the code up somewhere for this? I would love to set it up at home :)
If you have Home Assistant, someone built code for that: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/circadian-light-with-p...
As for mine, it's a total hack job, but for what it's worth: https://gist.github.com/fpgaminer/7840a6f2fb2d3a3be83625d7ac...
I don't do the fancy minute by minute adjustments to the color temperature; just a couple fixed settings for time of day and based on when the sun sets. And I just have it adjust a scene, which I have my Hue switches configured to use when I turn the lights on.
There's no good way to have this system work with, for example, turning on the lights through Alexa/Siri/etc since they won't use the Circadian scene that's been setup. But what I've got works well enough for now.
We have neighbors that smoke, and sometimes based upon wind patterns it blows into our yard. Any idea if they have sensors that can pick up this sort of thing so I can close our windows?
I have some code to read from this, it's not too hard. PM me if you're interested in my code. (I can open source it.)
 "CO2Meter RAD-0301 Mini CO2 Monitor" on Amazon, $70
You are posting here, so at least internet access you should have :)
EDIT: What about a magic mirror? https://forum.magicmirror.builders/
I also considered a magic mirror, but my problem with a magic mirror is that I don't have the tools necessary to build my own frame.
What software are you running? I have been using Dietpi for almost all my projects. Plex comes native( as an option to install) and a bunch of other software.
Normally you need a laptop or something hooked into it over USB to feed it your G code, or do manual control. But I didn't want my laptop in the shop getting dusty while the CNC runs, and I also didn't want to risk the cheap CNC failing and throwing a voltage spike into my laptop.
So I opted to use the RasPi. Also makes it nice to have a web interface, and you can add lots of stuff to it (e.g. camera).
(Sainsmart sells an offline controller attachment, which allows manual control with buttons and feeding gcode off an sd card. But the RasPi is only a little more money and you get the web interface, etc)
P.S. I should tack on the usual warning about hooking up a life threatening device like a CNC to the network. I use an SSH tunnel to keep mine secure, instead of exposing CNCjs directly.
Do you even need a RPI for this? Some of these seem overengineered.
Oh for sure. Normally I'd throw the Hue automation software on my home server, but it's busy with other stuff.
Other than that, for the other stuff I listed, I would have said the same a few years ago and opted for ESPs, Arduinos, STM32s, or some other "lightweight" solutions. But the Pi has gotten to this nice sweet spot now that they've got WiFi built-in and most of the rough edges are gone. They can do almost everything the other solutions can do, and for the things they can't you can buy HATs that fill in the gaps. So it's just nice to have one big, universal hammer that I can pull out for my crazy projects.
Most importantly, I don't like wasting time any more, and I'm willing to spend a couple tens of bucks on RasPis that might be overkill, rather than save X dollars making the best, slimmest, most engineered solution around the perfect STM32 chip.
What's the unifi controller?
The RasPi itself is so cheap I think a lot of people cheap out on the power supply and such, which ends up giving them lots of problems.
Anyway, given the poor reviews I've seen on the Cloud Key regarding hardware failures, especially on the newer versions, I just went with a Pi. But yeah, if someone has a machine on their network already, that's a great option too. I just wish Ubiquiti would release an official Docker image.
EDIT: I'm not necessarily arguing that people use RasPis for UniFi controllers, or that you personally should. I just thought your comment was a good opportunity to discuss RasPi reliability, because I know a lot of people have trouble with that.
Long-term, my plan is to mod some flavor of computer PSU and get properly regulated 5V out of it.
Also, I'm one of those people who runs a UniFi controller on a Pi. I used Docker, it's been totally fine for my uses.
Maybe it's a personality flaw, but I get plenty of satisfaction from just reading blog write-ups if things I could have done with my tech junk, without all the associated time invested.
It's much easier to vicariously enjoy projects like these, which is why I think drawer-dwelling is an inevitable destiny for most of these widgets.
That's also why I'm tring microcontrollers, it's back to low level, less shiny projects, but mentally saner.
: Such as https://www.st.com/en/evaluation-tools/stm32f3discovery.html
Seems like the number of them has gone way up so if you don't want to waste time thinking about which one to try, here are some suggestions.
Cheap and minimal ($10):
High spec for things like motor control ($34):
The Adafruit Trinket M0 was what I needed for a recent project. It's $8 and tiny. The feather boards also look very neat, if you need BLE, the ability to stack peripherals, etc. They all integrate with Arduino so you can be up and running in a minute. (They also support Python running on the device, which is maybe even easier than Arduino.)
I'm sure it's a 'flaw' that most of us have.
I also like getting grand plans for a (hardware) project, ordering the parts from Ali express, then losing interest before the parts have arrived, so they still end up in 'the drawer'.
My wife refers to this as the raspberry pile.
It essentially blocks tracking and advertisements on all devices, not just my computers with ad block.
Just need to keep the block lists up to date every couple weeks, but it's honestly great.
After having various weird network issues and instability on a different OS with Pi-hole (updates often broke), I switched to DietPi, and now my PiHole and OS upgrades are extremely stable.
The DietPi installer/configuration for Pi-hole sets up all the networking for you in the install "wizard", took all the weird networking headaches out for me
A few weeks ago I switched to Ad Guard Home. Has been rock solid since. The big dancehaus it doesn't support the exact same filter files.
What I meant is it doesn't seem to parse the same range of formats, so it rejected some of Pi Hole's filters as malformed.
I use to run ZoneMinder on an old PC, but it was a bit flakey, way too crazy to set up for a home system; I had learned how to config and admin it over the last several years, but I was just plain tired of it. It's another great system for security cameras, but not really for a home, unless you have a ton of cameras that need monitoring, and don't mind the dedication of a beefy machine to the task.
MotionEye OS is more a distributed solution. It is possible to set it up so one install can monitor multiple cameras (in some manner - I haven't played with it), but I like it as a simple single IP camera turn-key solution. It basically can turn a Rasperry Pi into a cheap wireless IP camera that isn't locked down or tied to a proprietary ($) cloud system.
Using a RasPi Zero W and the cheapest camera you can find, you can build such a camera for under $50.00 USD off Amazon; probably cheaper if you shop around a bit more. The only cheaper option I've found (but it takes more to set it up properly) is the ESP32 camera modules that you can get.
My wife doesn't have a clever name, but instead of usually rolling her eyes at yet another unfinished project, she loves this particular drawer because it's perfectly (and neatly) organized, like the best of unused item drawers.
One downside to the 4 is that it is moving from the low power to laptop realm in terms of power consumption which was my main interest in them. If top performance is what you care about, the Raspberry Pi is the wrong place to go looking for it.
These pi models are all tailor-made options. I think its a mistake to think in terms of "older models" when you consider the lower power requirement and higher physical stability of the rpi2 (doesn't overheat even without a fan, for example). The Zeros are less powerful but still belong in the range because of exactly that.
I've been - cross my fingers - lucky with MicroSD cards (usually Samsung, sometimes SanDisk), but having USB3 on the new model is quite the game-changer.
ETA: I do have rsync backing up my Pi setups, so losing a MicroSD would be merely annoying rather than catastrophic.
- Half the RAM but double the cores. I'm waiting for some benchmarks to see if the RPi4 is faster and by how much.
- Also Gigabit Ethernet and it works great. My downloads are always at 108-111MB/s for the whole transfer.
- Not USB 3.0 but has "oldschool" SATA through an internal USB-2-SATA adapter. It's at least more compact, otherwise the RPi4 with an external USB 3.0 drive will probably work even better.
- works with a normal 12V power supply, which could be lying around already, from older external drives.
Not to disrespect the RPi4, as I'll be getting one of them too very soon.
Can we just start calling them servers again?
* Home Lab :: Running a partial/full enterprise IT stack for fun and education.
* Home Server :: Running primarily internal services like file storage, backups, media streaming, home automation, maybe some light networking.
* Home Cloud :: Running primarily external services on the public internet to replace 3rd party SaaS services. More often than not this is done with a VPS provider rather than physical hardware in your home.
So maybe you find the terminology annoying since everything is cloud these days but it's genuinely useful to us folks in the forums. You can also call "home cloud" selfhosting if you find it less jarring.
Of course hardware hasn't been expensive for probably a decade or more. Today it is almost entirely a software problem. Or more precisely how to create independent quality software when many developers are employed by large corporations and no one wants to pay for development. I am not sure much is happening on that front.
If does go down then it's not cloud, no matter what hardware you're using.
In general, my rule of thumb is: what's the upper limit, the capacity or your wallet?
If the limit is the capacity, then it's HA.
If the limit is your wallet, then it's cloud.
Last I checked, Amazon had the fewest 9s of the three (going back a few years...)
If you pay enough money to run things on their computers all problems are solved. it is only when you self host that is the problem :)
Also, it seems like Western Digital would be an ideal player in the space since they want to bring processing to data storage via RISC-V.
Seperately, you’re not going to fool anyone by calling a server something else. (Not that “home cloud” is a bad term, but I think everyone realizes that still constitutes a server.)
If we had the logs I'd bet money that someone Googled "home cloud" to see if that would somehow get around hosting a server behind residential.
I'd also bet that even more people nodded "knowingly" while reading my sentence about blockchain.
"Double the cores" is not a valid consideration - 4+ core configurations typically have 2/4 cores (the 5422 has 4) with a high-powered architecture, and the remainder with a low powered one.
Compare for example the XU4 with the N2 - the N2 is more powerful, and yet, it has less cores (4 hp. + 2 lp.) and requires no fan.
The RPi is an interesting configuration - they have 4 high-powered architecture cores (4x A72) only. It seems it doesn't require any fan.
Of course if one requires specific chipset/components, we're talking about specific use cases, which is another story.
Ordered a starter canakit with a couple extras, and looks like I won't see it until August. :-( ... I'll probably forget I ordered it by the time it comes.
Even don't think about it - shitty support from vendor. They don't care about updates in general.
Of couse, such SBCs have an expiry date (which is also official), but this applies to any vendor, not only to them.
Additionally, they're one of the most engaging companies when it comes to community - just check their forums and see for yourself.
While I think pretty much any programmer could reapply them, my guess is that in the long term, one needs to know how device drivers development works, in order to adapt to the kernel changes.
But I'm not a kernel dev, so the maintenance could be easier.
I say that as both a Gentoo and Kali ARM dev
Take a look here if your board is supported.
On a more personal note - thank you for your service.
You got any advice for pulling the aircrack_ng/rtl8812au driver from github and making it into a patch for building in-kernel? I really like having signed-module verification, but I also really want this driver.
Needless to say, I won't be reading that link.
Wordpress.com wouldn't have done that with your content. Just saying.
Medium, on the other hand, does. I mean, it's not much - I get a slice of the revenue from paying subscribers', based on how much they 'applaud' my piece - but it's higher than zero. Despite this, Medium also makes it available to read free of charge for non-members - up to, I believe, a somewhat miserly three articles a month, though you can bypass this if you really must by using a private browsing window to get another three, and another three, and another three, and another three...
I've got kids to feed and bills to pay. If you really don't want to click an X on the login prompt and read it all for free, I can give you my payment details and sell you a PDF copy...
Would you accept to be requested documents when you enter the mall? Would you find normal to be stopped by a security guard that says “sir/madame, you’ve browsed enough stores for free without handing in your id card and personal data, please fill this form or leave” ?
I owe you nothing. If anything, you owe me. It’s my time that builds your audience, not the other way around.
- would you mind sharing how much you actually you expect in revenue from this article?
- Have you considered any other ways of monetizing it? Just an idea: if you had your own blog and registered on Brave as a content creator, you could be getting a few cents from me already.
Then how much you actually get is totally up in the air. If mine's the only piece Reader A applauds that month, I get 100% of the revenue (minus Medium's cut, of course - the house always wins); if Reader B has applauded 1,000 pieces this month, I get 0.1 percent of the revenue (as do the other 999 authors.)
It's a model which is inherently insular: of the traffic that has visited the piece so far, 90% is external (and thus earns me nothing other than name-recognition) and 10% is internal to Medium. Only a tiny, tiny fraction of that 10% has applauded, and I won't know what that translates to in terms of Cash Monies until Medium calculates it and tells me. I'd be much better off promoting it to existing Medium members - such as by joining a 'publication' on Medium - and ignoring external traffic sources, but I don't want to do that.
As a ballpark, though, the answer - long in coming - is "not much, but considerably more than I'd get on Brave." The Raspberry Pi 3 B+ benchmarking piece I wrote on Medium has earned about $277 lifetime; if this earns the same, I'll have done very well indeed.
Thankfully, I'm not relying on the Medium income: I've pieces in various websites and magazines based on the same core data, which pay one heck of a lot better!
I've even considered Brave. Hell, I've even tried Brave. According to my email archive, I signed up as a publisher in January 2018. Sadly, it's just not a sustainable model yet - which is why my piece is monetised by Medium, not Brave.
Sorry, it is really not my intention to pile on you. I am just really tired of the current state of affairs in regards to the publishing/authoring economy. I know it is easier said than done, but we need to have more content creators that are willing to take a principled stand and stay away from these actors and start creating exclusively on terms that are more ethical.
So, you won't support content creators who publish on a website which uses advertising.
You won't support content creators who publish on a website which allows non-members and free-tier members access to a limited number of articles a month and charges a fee, distributed to the content creators, for unlimited access.
You won't support content creators who publish in print, in magazines or newspapers.
I'm sensing a theme, here: you won't support content creators.
I would love to host my own website (actually, I host several) and write the same kind of content I do now, but how exactly am I going to feed the bills and pay my children? This is literally my job - I'm not just dashing out a quick blog post as I Segway to the London office of my cryptocurrency startup for a day of find-and-replace in the whitepaper. If I'm not getting paid for my words I'm not getting paid at all.
Brave is not the answer, I'm sorry to say. Something like Brave may be - I used to play around with Flattr, which was the same kind of micropayments model as Medium but applicable to any third-party web content, and doesn't have the ethical issue of blocking everybody's adverts but its own - but Brave ain't it, at least as it stands.
You don't want to support content creators, you want to support Brave. That's fine, but don't frame it as wanting to support content creators but only in one very specific and questionably-ethical way.
Otherwise, put your money where your mouth is: pop me a payment across, in the currency or cryptocurrency of your choosing, and I'll publish the same piece on my main website. No adverts, unless you count the cover shots of the books I've published (hey, there's another way you could support me - and if you're worried about ethics, some of them are available for free download under a Creative Commons licence!) down the side.
I am also contributing about ~10€/month on patreon for different software projects and writers. I've written to more than one youtube channel producers asking them to look into alternatives so that they could take my money. The Quilette model is also something that I do appreciate.
Believe me when I say that I am more than willing to support people that create content. And depending how much you are asking for me to send you, I'd gladly take on your offer.
* story time: I got a call from an Eyeo recruiter some months ago, who was looking for people in their ad-block/acceptable ads team. It turned into a most-of-the-time-friendly discussion about how acceptable ads does nothing about the tracking of the users, so I wouldn't be interested in joining their team and me asking him to call me back only if he had some position on flattr.
But what about the person who wants to write full time, but hasn't built the audience yet? How do they go from $5 a month to paying the bills? In my case, I didn't have to: by the time I switched careers I had enough regular clients to cover all my outgoings, albeit only just. Quit the day job, picked up some more clients, and here I am doing it full-time to this day.
If I were relying wholly on Patreon - or Brave, or Flattr, or even Medium - I couldn't have done that. Patreon isn't going to give me $300 on spec to write an article that might not do well; Medium won't front me a few grand against royalties so I can take time to write a book.
D'you know who will? The traditional publishers.
I appreciate you have a personal stance on this, but so do I - and mine comes not from the perspective of "I'd like to read this but it's on a website I don't like" but from the perspective of "if I don't get paid for this I'm literally homeless."
Actually, I have a Patreon account - https://www.patreon.com/ghalfacree - I signed up just before the new fee scheme came in to lock in the old rates, but never launched it (hence the zero backers.) Don't really have time to give it the love it would need to gain traction, either - again, we're back to the problem of not having the cash to go from zero Patrons to I-can-feed-my-children Patrons.
Yes, this means that I will actively find ways to accelerate the demise of these business. No matter how much I want to support content creators, it does not make me responsible in guaranteeing their job.
Furthermore, SATA and Ethernet are connected to individual USB3 busses, as opposed to earlier RPi designs where everything shared the same USB2 bus.
I haven't checked the RPi 4 specs yet, but i can imagine it's still the same layout, just a faster bus, which can be "just fine" - it should be plenty fast to saturate a Gigabit ethernet as well as the SSD/HDD IO required to do that.