They do have a point on emission controls, though. Pretty much every person I know that owns a diesel car has either ripped out or plans to rip out the particulate filter. Doesn't matter that it's illegal, doesn't matter that it hurts everyone around. People just don't care.
I'm all for the right to inspect and mod electronics, hardware and software alike, but we also need alternative ways to stop socially irresponsible people.
I have no first clue how these people get around yearly inspections; I've assumed that particulate filters must not be covered by inspections, though it wouldn't surprise me at all if it turned out people bribe their way through. While the overall levels of corruption in Poland aren't high, the levels of respect for car safety regulations and traffic rules seem pretty low in this country.
I guess it's a symptom of the only people willing to be learn to be a car mechanic and do inspections being part of the same group which generally see emission/safety regulations as being overburdening
I doubt that. Vehicles with a DPF have an indicator of when they're going through a regen cycle.
So it doesn't require a lot of people circumventing emissions to cause damage to the environment.
The information I read says that a non compliant car emits about as much NOx as 4 complaint cars. I would be shocked if your figure was anywhere remotely close to true.
What happens in 15 years when that particulate filter wears out and nobody can fix it but the rest of the car is fine?
Would be great.
> What happens in 15 years when that particulate filter wears out and nobody can fix it but the rest of the car is fine?
If it weren't so easy to get away with not having that filter, then what would happen is a secondary market that sells replacement filters for old cars, just like it happens for every other car part.
In my state any vehicle under 25 years old must go in for emission testing every few years or the tabs can't be renewed.
> If it weren't so easy to get away with not having that filter, then what would happen is a secondary market that sells replacement filters for old cars, just like it happens for every other car part.
Assuming owners have a right to repair of course.
The rideshare driver I mentioned elsewhere in this thread also told me that he knows people who tune engine firmware for diesels, and that they do disable error codes related to their tuning and the missing filter - and that it's important to be aware of this when getting the car repaired for unrelated issues, because the tuning hacks may mask problems in diagnostics and confuse the repair people.
 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20235002
Worst case in 15 years there will be a few shops around the country who specialize in rebuilding/remanufacturing the part and will sell you a remanufactured part for a set price plus a refundable core fee. This was the case for my throttle body, and for the fuel pressure regulator there were rebuild kits available from Napa.
I'd like to see a class-action lawsuit against the people who rip them out as they're personally making it harder to breathe where I live. Your right to do whatever you want ends at my nose.
I'm not advocating for people breaking emission laws. I'm saying you don't prevent that by revoking the right to repair.
Tell that to my Isuzu VehiCROSS!
Had mine in the shop to wait 6 months to find a -used- intake manifold...sigh.
How about regular car inspections? And if you say they don't work because of bribery, then that is a different problem, which can be solved by inspections of car inspections and fines that do hurt.
But I suppose the real problem is that many people does not really believe, that it is really a problem, so no political support then to stop this behavior.
Manufacturers don't trust users, but ask users to completely trust them. This is what we're asked to do post diesel emissions scandal.
Yes, them too!
> Manufacturers don't trust users, but ask users to completely trust them.
It's less that manufacturers don't trust users, and more that they could be held legally responsible for users' behavior here.