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I’m not very interested in a Pro machine but I want an enthusiast machine and a most-performance-for-the-buck machine and an expandable machine.

Basically an iMac with a discrete screen and desktop hardware in a reasonably large box. Something that can run the Intel CPU:s that are actually sensibly priced such as the 8700K.

So many hoped the bottom line Mac Pro would be cheaper bevause is no Mac ProSumer.

Apple appear to have decided that the best (in terms of enthusiast performance per dollar) segment of desktop computer simply doesn’t have high enough margins and would cannibalize on iMac and MacPro sales where margins are much higher. And who can blame them?

If Apple made a 2019 tower with 8700K/32GB/GTX1560 and sold it at $2k it would sell a lot but every sale would cost one MacBook Pro, iMac or MacPro sale.




I’m not very interested in a Pro machine but I want an enthusiast machine and a most-performance-for-the-buck machine and an expandable machine.

You want the most-performance-for-the-buck from Apple?

You haven’t been paying attention for the last four decades...


If I were to buy an apple desktop (I'm not) I'd be happy to pay an apple tax. But I can't buy an $6k machine when what I need is a machine that is $2k ($1.5k plus apple tax, say)


>If Apple made a 2019 tower with 8700K/32GB/GTX1560 and sold it at $2k it would sell a lot but every sale would cost one MacBook Pro, iMac or MacPro sale.

Leaving the Apple prison is also an option.


Not for a lot of apple devs it isn't (To develop for Apple you need a mac). And remember this was presented to a room full fo apple developers at WWDC. Basically saying "you aren't getting a machine this time, we made one for creative professionals. Of which there are none here". That explains the gasps at the prices.


>Of which there are none here

Haha, that's hilarious.


Not really a prison then.


That's precisely my point, that it wasn't even listed as an option.




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