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Exactly. Don't listen to what people say they will do, watch what they actually do.

marcus Aurelius

this forum is becoming very low in quality. someone downvoted my information about who said that

I think the issue might be that it's a common enough thought that attribution isn't important as multiple people could have derived that independently and that simply attributing where a paraphrased quote comes from without any other commentary is in itself low quality.

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