All the firms we spoke to were onboard with this and continued on with their proposals except Accenture. One of their lead devs was extremely combative and trying to tell us that going with Angular was a much better idea / React is a failure. On top of this, they kept pitching that they were going to rewrite all the backend services, which was not part of the RFP or even brought up as something wanted.
It really felt like they already had a generic turnkey product in place and wanted to sell us that instead.
To be clear, this isn't a knock against Mexican or Indian people. But the people working in these accenture buildings are literally writing code using windows notepad, in un-airconditioned rooms, and fired if they don't deliver on time.
They then, obviously, write buggy code, which Accenture then offers to fix to the client for an additional fee. They used to have onshore American developers responsible for being the white/professional face to the client, but they've since dropped that as well, and now only hire on a management level for that role.
The crazy thing is IBM consulting is worse. I've been forced to work with IBM .Net Consultants who didn't know what visual studio was. Not how to use it, but literally didn't know what it was. And when shown what it was, couldn't figure out how to start the installation process. Again, not install the whole thing, couldn't figure out how to double click Setup.exe.
The very best though, was a small consulting company that was competing against my Accenture project back at the time. He was, of course, also an Indian outsourcing company. But he came with the additional twist that everyone he hired as a developer was a woman from India, and was only on-site in the USA on temporary work permit.
He was the only man. So if they didn't do exactly what he said, he would kick them out of the country, and send them back to India. No potential for gross abuse there.
There are great offhsoring companies, but they don't work for offshoring rates. I now firmly believe that if your company is seriously looking at offshoring their technology for cost savings, it is not a competent technology company already.
I just stopped reading after this. You are full of yourself.
I had the chance to work with a team in Accenture Mexico, and they offices are nothing but great, just look at the pictures:
Your entire comment is just a bunch of lies, not sure what you are trying to accomplish.
I'm not defending Accenture over this lawsuit, but it seems that you bring so much hate with that comment.
I also was definitely overreacting when I wrote the above, as I am currently dealing with an issue with an overseas contracting team at the moment, and used the above comment to blow off some steam. I apologize for the vitriol.
Monte Ray is the new facility they were building when I left. I'm happy to hear it might actually be a good building.
When I left, it was explained to me that on Monday mornings, many of the Mexican development team were driven via school bus over the border to work in the SouthWest, and that as a result, American hiring was going to be at least temporarily frozen, and that they would be responsible solely for WPF applications.
The line about un-airconditioned buildings and notepad is how the office we were working with in India was described to me by the manager in charge of that team on my project.
I thought, given the similarities of those two stories, that conditions would therefore be similar to the Mexican office.
I apologize for the mistake, and am happy to hear that I am wrong. Apologies for the incorrect comment.
I worked in Bangalore in 2005, (the city with the best weather among cities with tech offshoring offices). Even Bangalore had airconditioned offices.
Second-hand bullshit is still bullshit.
2. It's an open office environment with very little desk space. Most of the in-office pictures are stuff on desks.
We were largely a VS/Java shop when I was there then we started to invest more in Angular, so that's probably why they fought so hard to convince you.