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You have every right to your opinion about if you feel his actions were justified.

But that doesn't excuse him from the framework of our laws, if you break the law, even for a good reason, its a jury that decides.




This "holy" law is cleverly circumvented in the quest for war crimes. So any appeal only gets you so far. We are back to square one. Government will hide crimes, people will try to call them out. Law is as useful and error prone, as we want it to be.


The law isn't perfect, in any country, and that's never going to change. We need to vote for leaders who will reform it in the direction that we want.

But the fact that some people get away with crimes doesn't mean we should ignore all crimes and adopt a system of anarchy.


Why not?

Who said it would be worse?

Where you asked before adopting the current system? Or you were just expected to sit and accept it?

Any why would a system that takes into account actual benefit to the public or not, to absolve someone of something that is otherwise a crime, would be tantamount to "anarchy"?


> Any why would a system that takes into account actual benefit to the public or not, to absolve someone of something that is otherwise a crime, would be tantamount to "anarchy"?

Without a clear set of laws things get messy really quickly.

We do allow for subjective peer input in a trial, that's exactly why the jury exists.

But to say that someone shouldn't even be put in front of a jury just because you think they broke the law with good intentions is undermining the purpose of law. Who are you to decide what was a "benefit to the public"?

There were people who thought that Guantanamo was a "benefit to the public" so should they be allowed to torture people?

There were people in the NSA who thought that mass collection of metadata from phone companies was a "benefit to the public" so maybe we shouldn't investigate those things.

That's not how I want the law to work. We should investigate all of those things, regardless of what you think is beneficial, under a strict set of rules of law. And we use democracy and international order to shape that set of rules.

If you think this is crazy and oppressive you should look around at how non-western countries handle these things.


Sadly yes, this doesn't excuse him from the framework of our laws, just like it did not excuse Turing, leading to his death.

Maybe it's time to adopt a more aggressive stance against immoral laws, don't you think?


everyone breaks laws every day, if the government has a problem with you they will find one you broke. we see it all the time at scales big and small.




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