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That's a conflation of several different things and redefining marketing from the actual definition to be what you want doesn't make a good argument. Lying in ads is illegal and "manipulation" is just another word for influence, the same as when you recommend something to your friend. Whether you trust a brand or not is no different than whether you trust a friend which is why we have branding and customer loyalty in the first place.

Advertising is communication and has no inherent usefulness; the value is in the outcome. The user isn't suffering, they're choosing a way to convert attention to currency as a way of paying for the content they want. It's a choice they willing make and having the option to transact that way is a net positive for both sides.

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