- Set a cookie and let the poster edit/delete the page after it's published. They will make typos, mess up the formatting, post while drunk, etc.
- Markdown formatting. You need at least bold and italics. You could even have a small toolbar. I don't think the editor needs to be super minimal, just the viewer.
- Make sure the branding and links at the bottom are visually distinct from anything the user could enter. Maybe give it a grey background or invert it or something. Fixed positioning is also an option, but might be too annoying.
- Remove the Feedback tab from the viewer.. really spoils the aesthetic.
I'd just suggest adding buttons for bold, italic & link. That way you can still keep it simple. I'm all for having a ruthless approach to unnecessary features.
Markdown formatting I actually did implement, but commented out for the first "release". It will be a somewhat restricted markdown, along the line of reddit.
I am not sure what you mean about the branding. If you could elaborate, I would be greatful.
The feedback button should go, I agree.
Thanks again! I decided to follow the "let users tell you what they want" strategy, so it is great to get feedback.
I forgot that they even existed until you just mentioned it. Maybe other people would want to use it?
The app is done well enough where nothing is overtly bad or glaring. That being said, I do have a few light thoughts & suggestions.
- I agree a source textbox for citations would be nice, but it's not too pressing considering you can include it at the end. In a similar vein, an author box would be nice too.
- Any reason why the URLs are 5 letters long? Not to undervalue the popularity of the service, but you could easily start out with 3 letter abbreviations, which would give you ~150k URLs.
- For that matter, what is your character set? Are you using just letters, or alphanumeric characters? Again, I'd prefer the former since you aren't going to get a significant boost from the extra choices. You might also want to take out 'O', 'o', and 'l' so its unambiguous when written out.
- Finally, although I'd be weary of allowing crazy markup systems, it might be good to implement a lightweight format such as Markdown. Nothing too fancy, but it's nice to be able to add emphasis without having to SHOUT.
For fun, my comment on tidypub: http://tidypub.org/moAbu
What has Twitter done to this world? I for one would like to see the title you type appear in the url.
Less characters means its harder to screw up. Question marks and random letters make non-techie people anxious. If its short, it at least helps.
I was thinking of adding an "author" field, and now that you and some other people mention it, I think I will follow through with it.
Honestly, you seem to have put much more thought into URL shortening than I did. I am using just letters for the character set. Shortening the URL sounds like a good idea. And removing the O's and l's is also something that I think I would do. Great suggestions, thanks!
Markdown is actually in the code, but commented out for the "release" =) So it should be coming soon.
See https://gist.github.com/722474 for a proof of concept scraper. If the key length dropped to 4 chars (and you kept l, o, L, and O in the set), there would only be 7,311,616 urls to try to find all the notes.
I'd suggest using New Base 60, which has some smart readability built in: http://tantek.pbworks.com/w/page/19402946/NewBase60
Interestingly I chose 5 letters as well for my url shortener. e.g. http://twitter.com/akkartik/status/7915316453580803
Save you a click.
Also I'd like to see a post date on the page.
Finally is it open source?
Nice clean look & feel though. It looks almost exactly the same as what my Readability bookmarklet turn out.
Posterous makes all sorts of decisions for you giving you a good default, eliminating and deferring choices. Here is no hard stuff to do for you. Simple vs easy.
I think this way has a much lower overhead and I wouldn't be surprised is link-less posts make use of this.
I have seen posterous, but I was going for something even simpler. The email to post idea is pretty cool though.
Thanks a lot for the feedback.
Don't compromise simplicity.
Don't listen to those asking for markdown, WYSIWYG editing and the like - keep it simple. /Maybe/ do some detection to identify links and linkify them, but that's it. The instant usability and beautiful /enforced/ styling are its strong points, adding more customisability just dilutes this, IMO.
How about a script for a *NIX command line?
$ tidypub -t 'Any Title' < foo.txt
$ ./tidypub -t "How about this?" < tidypub
There is also a HTTPS-Everywhere ruleset for it in the current development branch.
For those reasons alone, I would always choose jottit over tidypub...
In fact I can't think of any reason how the two cases are in any way the same (I could see your point if we were talking about something like activex).
If the source already has a URL, then why is it needed to create a another (short) URL for that source again! a URL shortener (bit.ly, goo.gl) could be used in that scenario. :)
Jottit https://jottit.com has the same minimalist interface, but has a lot more features to offer.
* "WYSIWYG" editing with Markdown syntax.
* Custom subdomains
* Access control
* Custom theming etc.,
Jottit is about making a website -- multiple pages, themes, etc. It's more like a quick wiki. It's certainly not as readable or pretty, but is quite utilitarian -- not a bad thing, just different.
So, despite the two both beginning the process with a simple textarea and a button, they're not the same, and neither should strive to be the other.
I doubt you'll get enough users though.
I find that the most of spam that I get on paste site I run is deplorable link spam for illegal content. I'm not talking about warez or torrent links either. I ended up having to write a filtering to look for keywords and url to content analysis and then submit content that triggers the filter to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
Best of luck.
To be honest, I think it would be hard to get a profitable business out of your idea (the cost to acquire customers would probably exceed the lifetime present value). However, I suspect that profit isn't necessarily your intention here.
Though i dont maintain it anymore, there's basic visitor tracking by adding a + to the generated url, just like bit.ly.
Very soon, online pharmacy bots started spamming me!
In retrospect, looking at all the positive feedback here, I feel that where I went wrong was adding bloat like picture uploading/url shortening etc...
But stk8.co supports links as well, like:
That being said, I can't think of very many times I've needed something like this. If I had more to say on a topic than I wanted to leave in a comment, I'd blog about it. If I knew the person, I'd email them.
Well I'm glad he didn't wait to show it until after he'd expanded on the concept. This is a great example of software that does one thing and does it well.
Ligatures would be nice too, but I guess that is dependent on things outside the apps control.
Nice service by the way. I love the low barrier to posting. Like pastie.org, but for publishing.