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if you think C or C++ programmers are ever going to admit this, you must never have met one

What is a C/C++ programmer? I've written fairly large amounts of C/C++ over the course of my career and I continue to do so. I totally concur with this and am eager to see Rust take its place over time.

I feel like I can call myself a "C++ programmer"; I was the lead for C++14 RTOS.

It's pretty hard to argue with the OP's logic.

I was mainly a C and C++ developer until 2006 and you will see me praise C++, but also be an heavy critic of the copy-paste security exploits it inherited from C.

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