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I'm a veteran of Linux for 23 years, and been Windows free for 15 years or so. I love Linux. I love my lightweight i3 setup. Neovim, neomutt, weechat, ncmpcpp...



> I love my lightweight i3 setup

It's been so many years and I often take for granted what's before my eyes -- i3 is solidly in the "pry it from my cold dead hands" category.


Until you switch to sway, which is basically i3, but for Wayland. Good bye X11!


What's the appeal behind Wayland? I've been using X for a while now (linux n00b) and I really enjoy having everything like this, there even are a couple apps I use specifically for X11.


It's not perfect, but personally I appreciate the better security model of Wayland. Although it can be annoying if you have to do screensharing/recording. On my older laptop, it also feels more responsive.


I'm on Wayland via Fedora, and we use Zoom for company video conferencing. About 2 months ago they released a new version that started supporting screen sharing on Wayland. Works perfectly.

Edited for grammar and to add this:

My point being is that it's slowly but surely getting better and better.


Which version are you using right now? I have the latest one and it does not allow me to share anything else than a white canvas. Do you launch zoom somehow differently? For me it behaves like a regular XWayland app


zoom-2.7.162522.0121-1.x86_64 which seems to be their latest.

With the previous version I had the same thing, only allowed me to share white canvas.

Here's the process hierarchy:

  \_ gdm-session-worker [pam/gdm-password]
      \_ /usr/libexec/gdm-wayland-session gnome-session
          \_ /usr/libexec/gnome-session-binary
              \_ /usr/bin/gnome-shell
                  \_ /usr/bin/zoom
                      \_ sh -c export SSB_HOME=/home/me/.zoom; export QSG_INFO=1; export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/zoom; /opt/zoom/zoom ""
                          \_ /opt/zoom/zoom

Besides installing the new RPM, I haven't done anything differently.


Sadly I'm not able to test this since I'm not running Fedora and GNOME. I'm using sway. Interestingly enough, Zoom change log does not seem to mention anything related to Wayland support: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/205759689-New-Upda.... Thank you for your comment, will try this in GNOME some time.



Sway has too many bleeding edge dependencies last time I checked, so it’s hard to get built and running on a “conventional” desktop-oriented desktop like Ubuntu.

The author has iirc even actively discouraged Ubuntu and Debian from packaging it, because he doesn’t want distro users creating bug reports on older versions (ie noise) for bugs already fixed in git master.

Once sway lands for regular distro-users, I’ll be there. For now I’ll stick to i3.


Sway is very close to a 1.0 release, 1.0-rc4 was just released: https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/1735

It is and has been quite stable as a regular user on the sway-git version for awhile, but I can't comment on what it's like for Ubuntu or Debian.


Sadly it seems it currently can't deal with rotated monitors ;-( I really do love my vertical 24" monitor with full screen terminal.


I believe that's been possible since 1.0-alpha.1 : https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/1735


It is, I have it setup in this configuration.

I also personally found sway makes setting offsets for 2 monitors somewhat easier than X11.


I'd love to switch, but we use Zoom at work and screen sharing in Wayland was unsupported, last I checked.


Screen sharing works on zoom-2.7.162522.0121-1.x86_64 which seems to be their latest.

(see my other comments here)


Thanks for the head's up; much appreciated!


I want to do that so bad. If only changing dpi didn't make everything blurry :-/


I've been using Linux every day for 15 years now. I love Linux desktop, not perfect, but neither is Windows. I started with Gnome 2, jumped over to KDE 4 and now KDE 5. Very happy with how well and smooth everything works.




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