"This association may also be contributed
to by rising blood pressure and sugars
that were not yet diagnosed as hypertension
or diabetes but warranted weight loss,"
thus leading the women in the study to take
up diet beverages, said Dr. Keri Peterson,
medical advisor for the Calorie Research Council, an
international association representing the low- and
reduced-calorie food and beverage industry.
"What is it about these diet drinks?" asked
lead study author Yasmin Mossavar-Rahmani ...
(edited for quotes because I keep forgetting this is not markdown)
I used to just order a cola light/zero/diet in restaurants but it was more of a habit than something I actually particularly enjoyed. These days I usually go for water, tea, or coffee. Small change, probably a lot healthier, and I actually enjoy drinking it.
There are some diseases that involve a malfunction in phenylalanine processing, like phenylketonuria and hyperphenylalaninemia. It would not surprise me a bit if people with subclinical forms of hyperphenylalaninemia self-medicate with diet soda to feel better, particularly energy drinks that come with other things that aid in dopamine synthesis. Disfunction in dopamine synthesis often affects other things like NO synthesis, affecting blood pressure and inflammation.
Edit: changed serotonin to epinephrine, as phenylalanine is not a precursor to serotonin.
by any chance is that number a standard part of a yearly blood test, or do you have to ask for it?
Are you aware of any research on this idea?
At some point, I got genetic testing done through 23andme, ran that info through software that revealed health info, and it showed I had a genoset that heavily affects phenylalanine processing. I started taking a stimulant and tyrosine, and I've felt better ever since.
My genetic oddity also affects NO synthesis, and will probably lead to my death through heart attack or stroke. It's gs224 if you're interested in the specifics.
Coca-cola "classic"/"original taste" is still available with only sugar, but typically at a higher price than other options.
I haven't seen any sugar/sweetener mixes even after the sugar tax - they are either full-on sugar or zero-sugar.
Pick up anything else (Sprite, Dr Pepper, Orangina, Irn Bru, San Pellegrino, generic brands, etc) and they are all reformulated with sweeteners or a sugar/sweetener blend.
Even Coke has relabelled "Coke Zero" with a traditional red can/bottle and "zero sugar" in small letters, rather than the distinct black label that it used to have.
Diet carbonated drinks just make me gassy. I’d rather have the sugar from a regular Coke and just not drink one every day, or multiple ones per day. I have co-workers that drink 6-8 per day.
I find the “tiny” cans which are only 7.5 are about the perfect size. 3-4 drinks, only 80 cslories, a small bump of sugar...if I drink a 20oz bottle I usually can’t finish it as it’s way too sweet. Turns out the original size of a bottle of Coke was 6.5 ounces.
I guess this is what the article tries to achieve. Just PR to steer you to more unhealthy consumption.
Safe choice here was always to simply avoid sweet beverages altogether, and not just Coke, all the juices too.
I made this mistake for a long time, trying to fudge my diet with faux-healthy snacks that were still basically just packaged fake sugar.
If you want a bit of chocolate, have a bit of chocolate. If you want a soda, have a bit of soda (the small cans are about the right size it seems). Just don't have 8 sodas a day, or eat an entire cake to yourself. Calorie count. Make sure most of your diet consists of things other than empty carbs. Eat your veggies, etc.
People seem to focus on the daily consumption which is sadly common. But, there is a huge range between daily and never. I also eat fast food a few times a year which is fine.
Of course, I also drank diet soda when I was overweight. And it's fair to say that when I switched from regular soda to diet, I was hoping it would help me lose weight.
Diet sodas appeal to people who are looking for an easy answer to the problem of losing weight. It just so happens in my case I eventually found and committed to a not-easy answer.
I still drink diet sodas for two reasons. One is that I enjoy the variety. At times I have drunk just tea and water, but I get bored with that. The other is I do feel like they make it marginally easier for me to maintain a healthy weight. Without them, I'd probably indulge in non-diet sodas from time to time.
> Creator of Film Theory, Game Theory, and co-host of GTLive. Diet Coke addict. Owner of a cat and a baby.
I don't know if he counts as "a skinny person", but he's not exactly a FatPat either.
Positive: The study is open access!
Negative: The study is, to the best of my few minutes of ToC reading and Ctrl-F-ing, _entirely_ unrelated to soft drinks or sweeteners
Am I missing something? In either event, 2 out of 3 ain't bad, I suppose
Unfortunately, it's locked. So I'm going to go for 0.5 out of 3 on this one.
I would assume the people most likely to drink diet beverages do so to wean themselves off of sugary drinks. That's one of the first steps in getting towards a healthier lifestyle. The article notes this too.
A mystery to me is why they haven't asked about consumption of sugary drinks at the same time. That would have allowed to get much more interesting correlations.
Obviously because sugary drinks manufacturers are paying for the article and the "study".
A random example that does not definitively settle anything but is enough to make you keep asking the question .
And one common sense argument is that many people consume way more diet sodas than they would regular ones. Since they have no sugar and almost no calories the assumption is that there is no danger to consume more of them, they are "healthy". Since artificial sweeteners have their own sets of risks in mechanisms that are perhaps even less understood, suddenly this assumption is that more dangerous. It could be jumping from the frying pan into the fire.
It's the same recently with cigarettes and e-cigs. Determining smoking or drinking coke is bad compared to not doing it is relatively straight forward. Determining what's better out of 2 alternatives that just harm you in different ways and that weren't studied enough is harder.
If you want to play it safe go for none of them.
Sugar is pretty addictive so for many people the need is very real. And you can see this from the worldwide sales of sodas.
I suppose because there already is a consensus that sugary drinks are bad for people and cause all the mentioned problems. Now the eye turns on the sugarless ones. However a comparison would be indeed welcome.
Doesn't this suggest that they actually failed to control for lifestyle effects?
These do need to be interpreted carefully though, lest you end up concluding that a drug increases your odds of getting into a car crash or something. There could be a causal link—maybe the drug causes drowsiness or affects vision—but it could also be noise....5% of the time happens 5% of the time, after all!
I recommend reading the editorial in Stroke instead:
And you can get the article here if you have access to Stroke:
In fact, of their cohort, if the person was obese and drank high quantities of diet drinks, their risk of strokes shot up even further.
You normally take phosphor binders (Renagel) as well as giving up coke - god only knows what costs in the states it cost the nhs about £1000 for 2 months supply for me.
Compare this to e.g. 20x lung cancer incidence for smokers, where even w/ observational data, you can be pretty sure there's a causal relationship.
Maybe do some RCTs giving diet soda to animals or something and see what happens. And look into the chemistry to see what the mechanism might be...
(That said, probably prudent not to go too crazy with diet soda, or any other novel ingredients.)
I think if you're drinking 2 or more diet beverages a day, you probably have a "fuck it" attitude when it comes to your health. And that attitude probably pervades the rest of your decisions you make in your life.
Even the people I know who couldn't care less about their health all talk about not wanting to get cancer from drinking diet sodas, especially those containing aspartame.
It may as well be that people more prone to stroke or heart attacks pick up diet beverages.