"Autocratic governments often limit phone and Internet access in tense times. But the Internet has never faced anything like what happened in Egypt on Friday, when the government of a country with 80 million people and a modernizing economy cut off nearly all access to the network and shut down cellphone service."
The Egyptians turned everything off.
Edit: The BBC article has a bit more detail.
"The test is also expected to involve ISPs demonstrating that they can direct data to government-controlled routing points. These will filter traffic so that data sent between Russians reaches its destination, but any destined for foreign computers is discarded."
Why else would you need to discard outbound traffic?
See for example, the EU setting up a system to continue trade with Iran.
You are probably right that Russia should be worried on some level. But so far Russia seems to be the main driving force behind cyber warfare at the moment so I'm not really sure they can complain.
> "Don't worry, we're OK, though frightened and angry. Moscow is full of tanks and military machines, I hate them. They try to close all mass media, they shutted up CNN an hour ago, Soviet TV transmits opera and old movies. But, thanks Heaven, they don't consider RELCOM mass media or they simply forgot about it. Now we transmit information enough to put us in prison for the rest of our life :-). Hope all will turn out well at long last..." -- Polina Antonova
I'm not happy how this is turning out, actually. Though I'm not thinking of just Russia, the situation is too pathetic across the board for anyone to point fingers at anyone. I'm not some kind of old school hacker either, I don't even get advanced math. But just as someone who was fascinated and inspired by "this stuff" since childhood, just by the stuff I saw in .readme files, I think this is true, even I can tell from the sidelines: the precious few ideals that made this all actually worthwhile, maybe noble even, were just quietly dropped by the wayside by too many, and subsequently not even encountered in the first place by even more. And that kinda breaks my heart.
Banning / Blocking any kind of internet usually doesn't work well for the government. Especially in a society that has already been relatively free online. The Economy of countries now depend on the Internet. Any government stupid enough to even test this kind of technology will face the consequences.
I also know a lot of foreigners who have been operating businesses in China for the past 7 years and are now moving out because they feel their civil / organizational liberties are being invaded.
People find ways of revolting without being killed. Freedom is a powerful force. Blocking and controlling is like a game of whack a mole. There is one of you and billions of moles, the Chinese government and Russian government are fighting a losing battle. Of course none of this is reported because of censorship. But if you read the news and you understand what’s going on on the ground level it all makes sense.
I'm only finding info on a 2014 block to stop coup protests and a request in 2017 for Facebook to delete 309 items they claimed were illegal.
Nothing about the Thai people DDoSing government websites over a Facebook block.
Facebook is less popular than VK, but Youtube is very popular, just as many other services be it Twitter or AWS.
Go do it for sure, but you’ll find trivial confirmations and conversations about declining health and not a lot else.
I only operate CW (morse) myself because that’s more interesting and there is a technical challenge.
If successful, this is also scary, as Russia will be free to wreck havoc on the general internet, without domestic impact
My guess is the US thinks along the same lines, but since most things Internet are US-based to begin with, they're probably less concerned with a dramatic public test.
What is meant by this?
GDP doesn't have much to do with it.
So, they are building a location in South Africa that will cover southern Africa, but their locations in Brazil and Europe actually have good coverage for Africa already and only recently has the demand approached the point to be worth the investment.
The reason for the is under sea Cables provided most of Africa’s backhaul capacity, which relates a little or geography and a lot of economic development.
Russia has 1/12 US GDP spread over a huge area. They have fairly good network capacity but simply don’t pay for that many servers. Tiny counties with good networks may randomly be chosen, but the odds are low. Where both US and China have the demand to support multiple AWS zones,
To the GP
Whatever your opinion of Russian politics, from a technical standpoint, aiming for full autonomy of critical services at a national scale, is praise worthy!
Sure, and the Nazis were really organized, why they almost made it to Moscow.
And almost made it back.
This is like demolishing one’s cities to claim immunity from nuclear attack. There’s no reason the damage couldn’t have been incurred at a later date, only when necessary.
Disconnecting from the world will leave Russia economically, scientifically, culturally and thus militarily poorer. The only reason the decision makes sense is it helps keep Putin and his gang in power.
Disconnecting Iran from SWIFT, continuing use of export controls  even after the fall of Soviet Union etc have demonstrated that non-western powers may not have sufficient room to set foreign policy on their own.
This might improve that situation a little bit for current and future Russian governments
>This might improve that situation a little bit for current and future Russian governments
Yeah, a totalitarian militarized state with state propaganda and own internal government-approved network, I've dreamed about that for my whole life.
> state propaganda
> own internal government-approved network
From : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_America
"From 1948 until its repeal in 2013, Voice of America was forbidden to broadcast directly to American citizens under § 501 of the Smith–Mundt Act. The act was repealed as a result of the passing of the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act provision of the National Defense Authorization Act for 2013. The intent of the legislation in 1948 was to protect the American public from propaganda actions by their own government."
> I've dreamed about that for my whole life
Live the dream!
Again, impede Russian government in what? Murdering and enslaving its people?
The majority of cases in the European Court of Human Rights are from Russia, first sanctions were applied when a lawyer investigating corruption among the officials was killed in prison awaiting trial.
Which positive Russian policies applied for the sake of people and not for the sake of enslaving and murdering its people were impeded by the west?
It's oddly enough the reverse.
From what it looks like, the idea is to try and make sure that the country's IT infruatructure and its essential public services - email, web, search, etc. - remain functional, should it be ever cut off from the Internet for whatever reason. It's a doomsday thinking, it goes against the very essence of the Internet, but this is something aimed at asserting country's independence.
I'd prefer this would've not been needed, but given the current state of affairs I can't say I'm shoked they are doing this.
Without the context, purely infrastructure-wise, what kind of scenario does "Roskomnazor will inspect the traffic to block prohibited content and make sure traffic between Russian users stays inside the country" imply to you?
It's just that many don't have any say in this and can't do much about it, but most realize this now. This is clearly a concern for both security and control reasons, which are two sides of the same coin. Any control can be abused. For every Roskomnadzor there's the US governement denying SWIFT to Iran and forcing EU to deploy a new system to work with the latter. So to me this looks more about power tugging at a country level with a freebie of a simpler censorship thrown in. Not the other way around.
Or before first strike, and attack from sources outside the country. In which case, seeing Russia go dark would be like an indication of cyber "missle" launch, but with probably milliseconds of early warning.
Makes me wonder if nations have or will have systems to try to detect when another nation is going offline and try to go offline themselves before damage can be done. Perhaps the best attacks will be launched from inside borders (imagine if one nation had hidden missle silos inside another nation's borders).
Then imagine if actual network problems were misinterpreted as a cyber "launch," and caused one nation to "launch" in response. Similar to ICBMs, there would be a window in which counterattacks could be launched, but it would be very, very small in comparison.
This is precisely what I would do as an engineer if I was responsible for operating such kind of network infrastructure
I wonder if the two governments were aligned.