Also, it's iPhone-only. Following the direct download link from an iPod or iPad yields an error. Guess I'm sticking with Boxcar for iPad push notifications.
Same here, except using Notifo.
Also, in my experience, there are often weird consistency errors in the App Store when something new is rolling out. (I could only see it on my Mac for a while before it appeared on my phone.) Try again in an hour.
Loading data is pretty fast on wifi, and the app is certainly nice to look at, but not taking any advantage of local persistence seems to push the web-centric worldview a step too far.
The only semi-interesting thing would be cheap international calls - but I have Skype for this already.
Voice mail, I don't use. If it was improved like with GV - I'd still not use it. SMS, I have plenty of free texts, never exceed my limit - though I wonder how they get away with making them free, given that carriers make lots of money with that.
One number to rule them all - that would be cool - except if it's controlled by one company which will eventually seek to monetize. Those chefs and massage services cost money... I don't, by the way, see how being available on the phone to anyone at any time, no matter what number they call and no matter where I am - as a feature. More like a bug. I am already easily reachable on my phone, via SMS, via emails. I don't need to be any more available.
Anything that I'm missing? Why would I want GV?
Google was obviously already on the iPhone (with search, its popular native app, gmail, etc.), but Google Voice is clearly different in that in competes with the core functions of the phone.
What do you guys think the impact of this will be? Could Google use this as a Trojan horse to hook people on GV then try to upsell them to an Android device with better GV integration? Or will it not matter?
I find myself saying "no, go ahead" or talking over the other person far more often with GV than not. It's certainly usable, but I avoid GV if the call quality really matters.
Google Voice isn't a good example of what I'm talking about (so, I guess that makes this off topic), but take Google Goggles for instance, where is the benefit of them porting that to iPhone? - I'm genuinely interested here. Surely there is more money to be made from people having Android which is loaded with Google, to supporting more sales of iPhone.
If they can help the carriers get more people using smart phones, they are happy. The android vs. iPhone stuff is just the small battle. The war is Internet use vs. Anything else (jogging? Sex? Swimming? And other activities google can't target with ads)
Out of interest, I wonder how much money Google actually makes from mobile Safari usage? Ie, if you took away Google search + Admob integration into the iPhone, how much benefit would they still have? (Even worse, replace it with Bing search, so that most searches the user does on their phone see Bings in-search advertisements)
Would be interesting to see the stats on how advertising goes in mobile optimized websites, and just how likely a user is to click on an ad-link while using their phone browser. I know my mobile browsing is either reading stuff, or looking up information I want to see, then getting out, whereas on a PC I'm more likely to wander around the internet earning money for Google.
Apple does the majority of its sales outside the US. GV does not work outside the US.
I think the most important thing is, Google would get contacts this way. I already uploaded my address book removing email ids from the csv file.
It's really more of a telephony abstraction than a client.
1. Set up Google Voice to forward your GV # to your cell phone.
2. Install the Google Voice app to get push notifications for SMS messages sent to your GV #.
3. Give out your GV # instead of your cell phone number.
4. Change the forwarding rules at will -- you can even use the same number for multiple phones.
Google's been on the record for several years as hoping to support this in the future.
iPod touch and iPad users account for a little under half of all iOS devices. Still a huge portion of the market to miss.
I'd like to not have to remember to launch the app to return a call and use the native SMS app to send from my GV number. Is this possible with the Android version?
Or are you suggesting the more indirect: more app stores->less confidence, more confusion, less sales->less device sales->less revenue
I think you make an even better point than I was thinking of though. Apple clearly values the tight control they have over applications highly. Whatever their motivations there - ux, security, platform lock in, vertical integration, control over competitors - they surely believe that ceding that control would have a negative effect on their bottom line.
I could see someone choosing Android just for the gmail app if email was very important and the other iPhone advantages didn't outweigh it. Mail.app for iPhone reminds me of the bad old days of email.
- It doesn't show new mail when it arrives
- It doesn't do threaded conversations so they're compatible with the gmail web app
- Its address book autocomplete is not as good
- It stores messages locally so you can't search past mails
- It does not hide the quoted text the same way gmail normally does, which sort of breaks that feature when you switch between mail.app and web based gmail.
edit: Maybe I'll try it again since you love it so much. It's possible that my initial frustrations led me to write it off prematurely (plus, I heard it's getting updates in IOS 4.2)
That depends on the push function. If the server supports push then you get the mail when it arrives. Mobileme works out of the box, as does exchange. Sadly, if you want this to work with gmail you have to set up gmail as an exchange account.
>- It doesn't do threaded conversations so they're compatible with the gmail web app
Not sure what you mean, it doesn't do them the same way as the gmail app? I haven't looked at that but it does do them and it seems to work pretty well.
>- Its address book autocomplete is not as good
It works well for me, but maybe I don't have as many contacts. I only have about 90 or so.
>- It stores messages locally so you can't search past mails
It searches locally but there is a button at the end of the results called "search on server". Does this not do what you want?
>- It does not hide the quoted text the same way gmail normally does, which sort of breaks that feature when you switch between mail.app and web based gmail.
Yea, that's true. That's a killer feature of gmail.
>Maybe I'll try it again since you love it so much.
I don't love it, I just find it better than most clients I've used. I just asked because I was genuinely curious what was better because it must be pretty dramatic if it makes the decent iPhone mail app look so bad.
I think that the lack of push was probably the biggest annoyance for me, so I may try mail.app again with your tip.
Google then bought Gizmo and put it on ice. You can use freeswitch/asterisk to login to your Google Talk account and take calls from your Voice account now and do the same thing.
Do I have to make a sacrifice to some modern deity or something to see this on our side of the pond? Oh pretty please Goog? :)