Signal is only atleast somehow secure app that regular people use because it has great unified ux and just works.
Just use Signal. Please
Matrix can replace Slack and the various mobile messengers, meaning there's a hook for companies as well. I don't think it's ready yet, but I'd rather be a condescending preachy asshole to my friends and family only when there's a very compelling reason.
Onboarding friends and family to Matrix or XMPP is almost impossible. Signal is dead simple and automatically discovers your contacts, while being secure, open, and developed by a non-profit.
Ideally I'd like it to be a federated system, but I'm not going to use untrustworthy systems like Messenger/WhatsApp because I'm not getting every feature I want.
I don't care. Give me ethical, privacy minded software not some phd experiments.
You mean besides freeing them from the Facebook ecosystem? That alone is worth it to me.
Guess what company is also on both of those ends? If people could stop parroting this as if fucking Facebook was trustworthy, that'd be great.
I miss using Adium as my native Mac chat client for everything, alas AIM is dead and Google killed their Jabber interoperation.
My dream of creating a new kind of messenger just got a little closer.
When I send an image to a friend, it can take hours to send a half-megabyte image despite my internet connection being fine. When this happens, none of the consequent messages send. If I close my phone, messages stop sending. So I must violate my privacy by keeping my phone open for sometimes, hours at a time, just to send a stupid little image.
Despite the fact that sending an image will cause consequent messages to be delayed by hours, messages have started, in the last 6 to 12 months, to be sent out of order. This can be disasterous, as a fair number of my friends have depression and other problems, which means (as an example) my "haha" responses can sometimes be seen to be responding to /other/ messages (And yes, I can use the quote function, but sometimes that interrupts the flow of messaging).
This, plus stupid little problems like, backups not being tested to be forward-compatible (something that is ridiculously easy to test, but that they could not be bothered to do), mean that relying on signal is a fool's game at this point.
I ended up stopping using Signal (except for a few holdouts) because of the message delivery problems; it caused way too many social problems.
I mostly use Telegram now, and it's been great. The worst part about it is everyone saying "but it's russian spyware!!" whenever I suggest it. It isn't, folks, and I'm well apprised of the theoretical vulnerabilities. They're just a compromise I'm more than happy to make, when the alternative is a chat tool that fails at chatting even 5% of the time.
What really sucks is that there's no hope of me convincing them to switch again if a better messenger were to come along.
I'm a heavy signal user for about 5 years, never had any of the issues you're describing. Regularly sending 3-4 minute videos it all goes through fine. Exported/imported my chat history 4 times now when changing phones, never had an issue. Never seen messages to be sent out of order either. I really wonder if we're using the same app!
The fact that you have it good, and have never had problems, does not contradict the fact that I and other people have had problems. Talking about these problems is not 'Signal bashing', just like talking about traffic problems is not 'car-bashing'.
I am thinking if this is happening could google be throttling signal somehow? That is the thing i have always worried about.
What does Google have to do with it?
> Telegram’s source code is not an SDK or a library. [--] But to be fair, the messaging app doesn’t state they have an SDK. All they did is put their source code in the open.
TDLib is that SDK.
uhhhh yeah, I'm sure that will go well.
The code is quite messy in general.