If you're looking for user friendly ways to request privileges, that solution should really be offered by core android in a way that works for manufacturers and users and probably won't appease all developers. App permissions systems have been a nightmare for users from the start so you can't expect users to learn a newly revamped permissions system. They'll just continue to ignore permissions on install and complained when their phones aren't working the way they expected. What's evolving out of the manufacturers is a simplified system that requires explicit permissions from the user after installation to enable problematic privileges and active governance to manage battery/data hogs.
The system you’re saying “evolved out of the manufacturers”, runtime permission requests, is from “core Android” all they way back at 6.0
And the problem has almost never been users blindly revoking permissions, it’s blindly granting permissions.
The problem the parent comment mention isn’t the method of asking for permission, it’s the fact there literally is not a permission.
And Android already has built in “active” battery management with Doze, if anything manufacturers are ruining it with poorly coded “optimizers” that do dumb things like kill their own alarm apps...
And even if Android did add a permission to allow an app to do whatever it wants in the background and kill the battery as much as it wants, manufacturers can’t be bothered to write optimizers that don’t kill a music playing app while the user listens to music, why would they bother respecting a permission they didn’t make?
> And the problem has almost never been users blindly revoking permissions, it’s blindly granting permissions.
If I wasn't clear, this is what I meant. Users ignore and accept permissions blindly on install.
> if Android did add a permission to allow an app to do whatever it wants
I'm not suggesting this at all. I'm suggesting that permissions systems, as granulated as they are, only make sense to developers and are mostly ignored by users.
> The problem the parent comment mention isn’t the method of asking for permission, it’s the fact there literally is not a permission.
I agree with the parent comment on this. Some permissions queries should be available on first use, rather than (or in addition to) on install.
