A while back I came across some of my archives that mentioned a BBS name that was popular in the past. Thinking it would be neat to own the domain name of the company that went out of business, I went to GoDaddy and checked. It was available awesome. Got distracted, came back an hour later and it was no longer available, but was at auction.
My first suspicion is nothing nefarious happened. I could have misread available vs auction, but I don't think so. I might have mistyped the domain name, but I don't think so. Something didn't feel right.
A few days later I checked another domain using whois through icaan. No resolution. Available. Pop over to GoDaddy and do the same thing ... check name is available. As a test, I wait an hour and come back to the name at auction.
I cannot explain what happened it except maybe GoDaddy's name check leaks or someone had the exact same name ideas when I had them. Again, this was years ago and am unsure if it still occurs.
Anytime you have a question about whether something is a scam or not, just ask yourself where the money is. In this case, it's in GoDaddy making money off of any time a domain name is sold, re-sold, auctioned, or if it changes hands. It's where the majority of their money made comes from, outside of services where people just don't know that better alternatives exist.
GD support were useless and I lost out on a few quality domain names. Never used them again since. In fact, I don’t even think I got my money back!
As for my case, it was a couple years ago where they would also host a small site redirecting to the auction. It states that it is owned by some XYZ entity, but if you peel enough layers of the onion scheme you can get to their name.
You can read more about the practice and measures here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_tasting
It's what I've always turned to first for availability. Super fast and less chance of a middleman grabbing it because you expressed interest.
You can also search on domains.google.com. They are known to not engage in these practices.
Availability is not the only factor that people look at when they first decide on a domain. Especially if it's a side project / startup and not a bigger project where it doesn't matter if it's 9.99 / year or 500 / year.
Since then I don't type any candidate domain into any registrar / online tool unless I'm ready to purchase.
0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_tasting
1 - https://web.archive.org/web/20070707203924/http://www.bobpar...
It was a trendy .com domain that was available, naively I didn't grab it right away, 2 days latter I went to purchase it, it was taken..
Cloudflare is also entering this business and looks promising.
I gave them a few months to see if it was teething problems with the new design but it persisted. Eventually I moved everything to gandi, which has been better in every way as far as I can tell - cheaper (for me), better website, better features out of the box.
Namecheap also does domain name front running and tasting, so it's not really any different.
I don't trust any registrar anymore.
I'm not disputing that what happened to you happened the way you describe it but I am disputing that NameCheap did anything nefarious in order for the situation to play out exactly as you've described.
Namecheap is also scammy. I searched for a random URL (smithstein.co.ru) and it said that while they don't sell co.ru they sell smithstein.com ( https://i.ibb.co/FxmMH81/Screenshot-20181212-133716.png ) . After clicking the button to buy it shows an error ( https://i.ibb.co/2Zbp7hB/Screenshot-20181212-133828.png ) and then when trying to search for smithstein.com I am given the option to make an offer (ie. not buy because someone else owns it)
NameCheap provides auction services through third parties for certain domains. You're confusing a poor experience caused by a bad response from one of these third party services with them doing something malicious. GoDaddy actively sells lists to "Executive Domain" accounts specifically so they can make money off the resale of these domains. NameCheap is just listing domains from third parties that provide auction services and sometimes they either don't get a response (so they show the general "buy" option) or they get an incorrect response (so you get an error). You're suggesting malicious intent on the part of NameCheap without any evidence that it exists.
Also, how is what you described scammy in any way? There's a difference between an error showing up for a domain name vs. a domain name showing as available and then later in the day showing up for an exorbitant price on the same site. NameCheap even labelled that domain for you as coming from a third-party but you're choosing to ignore that to sell the narrative that they're scammy.
It is not that important what happened behind the scene. In the end, I went to their site and I saw something that was not clearly marked as an ad. The listing looked almost exactly like their other listings. There, there was a button that said "buy", I clicked it and was unable to buy. It is the responsibility of NameCheap to make sure that their ads are not scammy. Just like if Facebook started showing porn ads, there would be blowback and people will stop using FAcebook.
That being said... you do you. I have no horse in the race with NameCheap. I just think their service is great and the customer support is awesome. If you prefer another registrar, you live your best life there.
I check https://tld-list.com regularly for ultra cheap renewals. I have two .party domains that I previously renewed for ten years for about $1/year a while ago.
Porkbun.com is a bit less expensive than NameSilo.com and also offers free domain privacy but I haven't tried it.
Another inexpensive one is NameBright.com but no free domain privacy, but some might prefer it if they don't care about domain privacy. I haven't tried this one either.
They are suspect as all hell.
Didn't they recently stop that?
"Godaddy has improved slightly on their interface since last years review. However they still have large menus that are complicated to navigate through and seem to be using the same bait and switch methods as before. After finally finding a domain that you like you will receive several offers for email, hosting, etc before you can even get to the cart. All prices seem to have an asterisk or two telling you that their super low price is only valid if you pay for 2 years or more. Going from previous experience I feel as if Godaddy wants to lock me in to use their services for as long as possible or to simply get as much money out of me before I leave. Looking around for what Godaddy charges for renewals I found several red flags where users are getting charged “market prices” for their renewals. You can see a forum thread regarding how Godaddy charges way too much for renewals here (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1365680). This post here (https://www.authormedia.com/6-reasons-authors-should-avoid-g...) even gives an additional 6 reasons why you should stay away from Godaddy."
I've moved everything to Google Domains, at $12 /y for .com domains it's only a little more expensive than GoDaddy (with Coupons) but it has a straight-forward simple and minimalist UI where I can get everything I need to get done (e.g. dns config/renewing) quickly and easily.
It's an example of a UX-focused UI built for you by contrast I view GoDaddy's user-hostile UX was designed against your best interests.
After a couple of years I finally found Namecheap and never looked back.
I started the process of purchasing it and then got scared when it came time to list my personal address for ownership. I stopped for about an hour to call my father to see if he would mind if I used his PO Box as the address. When I went back to redo/complete the registration, I was told the domain had been purchased by someone else.
For the next year or two, I checked it periodically, just to see if anyone had actually built a page of it. Nope. Just squatting.
I purchased nothingofvalue.org instead and have had it ever since. I also transferred the domain to Namecheap.
They once charged me, if memory serves, $75 to resolve a complaint about one of my domains. They wouldn't tell me what the complaint was, who brought it, or how it was resolved. They just charged my card on file $75 for the "service".
I transferred my domains out and never looked back.
Many HN users presumably saw the public launch of sr.ht a few weeks ago. I've been thinking about directions that it could be expanded in the future, and the use-cases which fit best are both (1) things I need to do to maintain sr.ht anyway, and could make into a service available to users; (2) things which are annoying to do elsewhere. To this end I'm thinking about offering domain registration. Since users pay a monthly/yearly subscription fee for sr.ht, I can just sell domains at wholesale prices and take no margin. Then you get to use the nice UI and API and so on sr.ht offers for doing DNS and domain registration (DNS probably through just pushing zone files to a git repo).
That being said, DNS records in Git sounds kinda neat. You avoid all the special authentication nonsense of "DynamicDNS" or proprietary APIs by using SSH keys, and you have versioning for rolling back configurations. Also you don't need a special UI that essentially builds zone files as you'd just have your users make their own. You might need some validation of the files before you actually put them into BIND though.
>things I need to do to maintain sr.ht anyway
I already run my own authoritative nameservers and if I automated the maintenance and deployment of that, it'd only be an afternoon of hacking to make available to the public, and a weekend of hacking to add domain registration to it. I don't just work on sr.ht, too, so having a streamlined and integrated domain registration and DNS service would be great for my other projects.
Though I do think it could be a good idea.
I think luadns.com does this, https://github.com/luadns/dns
I haven't actually used them so not sure how good their product is.
Disclaimer: I work for Google, no interaction with the domains team though.
I tried to buy a domain with gandi. I left it in my cart for a day and then the price went up $20 dollars. I loaded up the Tor Browser, searched the same domain name and it was back at the normal price. It would stay that way even when i looked up new .scot domains. Proof: https://i.imgur.com/7kMutbB.png . The "no bullshit" moto just sounds like Googles "don't be evil" moto, bullshit designed to fool geeks into thinking they're honest people. Does there even exist a site to buy domains that doesn't do this bullshit?
On what date was this picture taken?
[Edit] I just checked the exchange rate on google and 49usd is 67aud. Looks like it was just an exchange rate mixup on your part.
On the other hand, I don't like Google and I'm in the process of exiting their ecosystem completely. DuckDuckGo, just got my first iPhone ever, switching to ProtonMail, using Firefox, Pi-Hole to block google analytics. Router configured to drop all traffic to 22.214.171.124 and 126.96.36.199. Weirdly, Google Domains will probably be one of the longest holdouts of all the Google products
They don't support all of the latest TLDs though, so be sure to check first if you want to do a complete port away from your current registrar.
Almost cost me a domain due to their scammy set-up - since the domain was listed as "Domains By Proxy" or something similar, GoDaddy argued that it wasn't actually mine (despite selling it to me, and selling the privacy service to me) and the request to transfer couldn't go ahead.
Thankfully Nominet were incredibly helpful (and seemingly well aware of GoDaddy's M.O.) and they managed to sort it for me.
Sadly, I've just checked their site and they list GoDaddy as a registrar to use them looking for a domain, which is a shame.
I transferred it out of Godaddy as quick as I could, and one of the first things I did at my current job was convince my boss to start transferring his 400+ domains out of Godaddy. He had no idea that the "premium domains" that they charge him $100/yr to "premium renew" aren't actually anything special, and other registrars don't do that.
To fix it, we made NavHere (https://navhere.com/) to be a simple domain forwarding service. Just a few weeks ago, GoDaddy announced they are going to fix their domain forwarding...
I heard many anecdotal stories as consequently I owned the #1 us organic position for "available domain" and primarily referred people to godaddy and namecheap.
edit I see a godaddy insider confirmed the practice
I moved over to Amazon Route 53. It's not terribly user friendly, but at least it's not GoDaddy.
The only edge case to check is if you are using non-standard or less common DNS record types (ALIAS, CAA) then first confirm with the destination Registrar that they support the record types you need.
Or if you want to keep things really simple, switch to a third-party DNS host before transferring and use the same name-server settings.
And yes, paying the target Registrar should extend your registration time. For example, say you bought a domain last year and paid to register it for five years (so four years remain). Now you transfer it to Gandi.net and pay their transfer fee. You used up one year originally, transferred, and it's yours for five years again. Your unused years at the outgoing Registrar 'roll over' to the new one.
The guy later commented that GoDaddy had registered the domain the same day he searched it, but judging by his original comment it doesn't seem that he ever saw it available.
>Okay, so I searched for one domain name on godaddy. It was available but it was on 'auction' being sold for more than $10k.
After reading OPs post over and over again, it seems pretty clear that the guy is upset about the auction lasting more than the 90 days that was originally promised.
>The auction was supposed to last 90days. After these 90 days there were 4 views in total (all by me) and it got renewed for another 90 days and it keeps saying that the auction has started the day I searched for the domain for the first time.
>If someone is able to justify this as not a scam, please post your opinion
I think it's very weird that all the commenters seem to be assuming that there's frontrunning happening here.
I guess it's just easy to hate on GoDaddy while totally ignoring the facts.
It's far more likely that this guy resolved the domain to check if it exists and got fucked by passivedns instead of GoDaddy.
Nowadays I would only use Google. They have a reputation to worry about if they try and pull over these tactics, unlike Godaddy and similar shady companies.
Besides their shitty website, I never had a problem with GoDaddy.
I've been a customer of theirs for about 15 years.
Just sharing my experience.
Their 1st line support is not the greatest when there is an actual problem, though. Luckily I only had a few problems during the years.
If you read the guys comments, it almost feels like he's going out of his way to avoid specifying this really important detail. https://www.reddit.com/user/joevenet/comments/
And if this thread is supposed to be about godaddy squatting, why the story about the 90 day auction expiry? To me this definitely reads like a complaint about Godaddy auction processes and not about squatting.
Adding something like "Edit: Whoops, was just trying to note X, but it didn't come across right." would be sufficient, but it's up to you. To my knowledge, you have until two hours after posting to edit it, so time's running out...
Personal experiences are sometimes useful information. However, yours is somewhat out of date and lacked detail.
A lot of their market presence in the past had to do with their marketing, such as the Super Bowl commercials they ran, GoDaddy partner Danica Patrick, and some local philanthropy in Arizona, where their headquarters is.
Eventually, people found better deals with Gandi, Namecheap, and others, and their industry force evolved into one with far less impact.
Now the industry is evolving into one with no overhead with Cloudflare providing domains at-cost as companies provide value-added services which subsidize operating costs for providing domains to customers. This will ultimately put companies we've known in the past to be giants, and to this day are still publicly traded, in dire straits as they find new ways to stay relevant.
GoDaddy provides no high-value value-added services in comparison to other market leaders. So, for most who have moved on, there's no reason to go back. They are a now a middleman for no one other than small agencies or individual customers at best, who arguably do not provide any value for them either.
We'll see what happens to GoDaddys, Namecheaps, and Network Solutions when you can't charge people for domains anymore. What happened to TLS certificates will almost certainly happen to domains, too, albeit with ICANN fees remaining as the last overhead.
I don't think there's all that much serious competition for auctions.godaddy.com