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My point is that we should not normally need to use "other machines", of course for work there are requisite but tech users should IMO do their best to avoid working in bad environment/do their best to convince their company let them use productive software. It maybe a dream but IME it works at least if you are an admin or a relevant devs or you find a good place to work in. Of course it doesn't work if you are an administrative or other roles...

> Also, I'm going to get downvoted, but please put in a few line breaks.

I still have to learn the idiosyncratic way HN handle text... I do put linebreaks, I'm edit in Emacs and paste here, however HN mess it up...




There was a nice related article linked on HN last week: https://nickjanetakis.com/blog/optimize-your-programming-dec...

It mostly deals with decisions during programming, but the first part of the article describes exactly this problem.


My answer is that "the best" of anything are always a small percentage so I care "my élite" not the masses...

Always remember a thing: from diversity born evolution, from standard borne Ford-model workers.


> My point is that we should not normally need to use "other machines"

> of course for work there are requisite

So, which is it? We do or we don't?

> but tech users should IMO do their best to avoid working in bad environment

More often than not, it's not up to the workers but company policies. Besides, needing to use a machine other than yours isn't a "bad environment", it's life.

Not only that, but the "other machines" could equally be non-networked terminals for heavy machinery. A lot of these run a stripped-down version of Windows, so the basic user interface is usually left at default settings whilst an always-open program takes up most of the display.

I agree with you on the next part:

> [...] to convince their company to let them use productive software

I'm right with you here, but again, company policies. Plus, your example suggests you're just thinking of individuals within a company as individuals.

We mustn't assume that all users here are in technical jobs, particularly development; often we're just moving between standardised Windows workstations, lowest common denominator setups so that (A) non-technical users could log in to any machine and still understand how to use it and (B) the IT department have fewer headaches to sort out.

After all, a company is not just made up of individuals; it's full of teams who have to work together to reduce each others' burdens. Sometimes that means using setups that aren't our favourites; our personal productivity mightn't be as great as if we used our own setups, but the company doesn't grind to a halt when someone's delicate configuration goes haywire and the IT team spends more time on it than anybody has any right to expect.

There's a delicate balance to maintain in most companies. IT departments have no trouble labelling even the very technically competent users as ID10Ts.

> however HN mess it up

Are you making sure to use two carriage returns, not just one? It's not particularly idiosyncratic, reddit is the same. I think it might be inherited from non-WYSIWYG forums or bulletin boards.

At any rate, it's becoming a bit of a standard to use two carriage returns due to this being the way that line breaks are entered in Markdown.


Well, "company policies", at least in the part of Europe I know are not

hard stuff nor applied in a too bureaucratic manner: you ask/negotiate

and see results. BTW I do my best to avoid too big companies because of

bureaucracy...

On line break, no I type on a single line and Emacs automatically brake

line a 79's column... Of course I can leave double empty lines but the

results will be obscene for small-screen reader... That's the F-F idea in

emails. How does it look for you know?

IMO HN should limited it horizontal line.


This looks even worse, you've got double line breaks which turn simple line breaks into paragraph breaks.

Your editor shouldn't insert the line breaks at 80 column intervals; separate the content from the presentation, and let HN format your text properly. After all, if you have a small screen, the text will be wrapped according to the browser width anyway.


That's what I do in the first post... Maybe I do not understand what you say then, my English is somewhat poor...

I understand that you complaint about my comment's long lines because I "format" in F-F style (i.e. no linebreak except for paragraph), next I format with double linebreak to force HN "cut" longer lines.

I do not know how to format in other way, inserting html+inline CSS with maximum text width or maybe even media query is not something I expect HN accept nor a thing I'd like to do as a HN user...


It's really not that difficult. When you want to manually enter a paragraph break, you need two line breaks. HN ignores single line breaks.




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