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I mean I think this is just where we disagree. Its better to just buy a device and have a couple of bucks go to h.264 development than rely on something like Youtube which makes money, among other things, peddling advertising to children and teenagers, convincing them to buy crap they don’t need. When I was young I thought Microsoft dominating everything was bad, but at least they had a business model where you paid them money for a product. Buy a Pocket PC and Microsoft gets $15 or whatever. I think this new trend of everything being funded by ads and data mining is destroying computing. I’d love to go back to the “bad old days” of companies having to pay Symbian instead of getting Android “for free” or having to buy Office instead of getting Google Docs “for free,” or buy a Garmin instead of getting Google Maps “for free.” This is not how I saw computing turning out, I don’t think this ends well, and I certainly don’t want more of the that replacing models that worked perfectly well before. What’s next, Facebook bankrolling DDR5?



The problem with h.264 was, that it dictated the business model for everything that embedded it. In this regard, it was exactly the same "cancer" as Microsoft once said about GPL.

Today, purchasing Windows doesn't guarantee you ad- and data mininig free system, and soon it will be difficult to purchase Office at all, you will be renting. In this regard, I'm happy that there are different business models, not just one that would slowly pick the worst traits of everything else.


> The problem with h.264 was, that it dictated the business model for everything that embedded it. In this regard, it was exactly the same "cancer" as Microsoft once said about GPL.

To add on this argument: another huge problem is that the license terms made open source development/distribution really hard (i.e. a patent minefield). Similarly it could lead to legal trouble for people who just hosted their videos.


Exactly, as a consumer I don't mind paying $1 more for VVC technology. And that together is nearly $2B of patents fee yearly assuming no cap. From Mobile Phones, PC, Tablet, and many others.

The biggest problem is those companies within the group don't agree on the percentage spilt between them. Basically they are just being bloody greedy. And the reason why we have MPEG-LA, HEVC Advance, Velos Group and others.

The good things is that most companies realise how much of a poor job MPEG-LA did ( My guess is that they only cares about their commission any way ), they started MC-IF [1], which includes most of the original HEVC MPEG-LA Group members, HEVC Advance Members and one Velos members as well. They are basically most of the Japanese players... and ...... Qualcomm.

I really wish VVC succeed, and push the technical limits of Video Compression as well as replacement of JPEG, without all the dramas and patents problems.

[1] http://www.mc-if.org/our-members




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