Gmail used to be the argument to log in to their services. Now, if you use Gmail, it’s probably better to dodge the other services, by fear of losing Gmail.
So someone does something stupid using a work GSuite email account, gets not just the entire company email suspended, but also any staff member's personal gmail accounts that were linked for password recovery for their work email accounts.
On the other hand, that fact that it's not a story that is obviously dismissed as fake says volumes about many many people's shared experience with Google...
There are some people who if you hear stories of them doing bad things you'll immediately say "Nope. Clearly not true. That's just not how that person behaves." Google _used_ to be one of those. At least in my head (and from the front page of HN this week, it seems for a lot of other people as well).
I don't know how much of this is FUD spread by people who don't know any better. But given how much data google collects, I wouldn't bet against it being possible.
Some people violated Big G's TOS by buying pixels to resell. All their related accounts were closed.
Moving to fastmail would be a possibility but they do not have a calendaring system.
I see a FastMail app on the App Store but from the screenshots it looks pretty bad (is it just a web view?)
Email is way too important in life to let it be controlled by a company that has proven they couldn't give a shit about their users.
If it's important to your reputation, professional or otherwise, you should own it. Starting a self-hosted blog is easier than ever to do, and immediately frees you from these kinds of arbitrary actions.
Nice. I really like the idea of a return to more simple, light, people oriented websites.
Take a look at this, it was posted some months ago,
My main issue with hosting the blog myself is the HN/Reddit hug of death. Does anyone have any experience around this? Do they use a CDN to take some of the weight off?
If you want to take a look (still super early stage):
By the way what an interesting atmosphere for Google on their 20th birthday.
I wonder if Google maintains a do not f* with list.
I've had to rebuild my entire online presence due to Google banning my initial account for seemingly no reason at all, and I had no way to get in contact with them and not enough followers to kick up a stink.
I now basically don't use any Google services other than a Gmail account for signing up to spammy sites, and won't trust them again no matter how convincing they are.
Go, flutter, their new speech api have had very positive vibes on HN.
The less positive comments have been worries about Google's long term commitment.
These worries are legitimate concerns.
And I know what they decided on: free hidden advertising for every competitor!
Look how mant people went to Firefox and Vivaldi this week and how many went to Bing, Duckduckgo or Qwant.
They provide paid hosted services, or you can self-host it as it's free and open source (https://github.com/TryGhost/Ghost). Far better than wordpress. You write posts in Markdown. Editor is really nice.
Searching the internet turned up dozens and dozens of similar stories of Blogger-hosted blogs vanishing with no trace, no warning, no notification, and no recourse.
Happened to me more than ten years ago. Had a blog on blogger. Wrote completely original stuff - thoughts, rants, one or two tutorials and had a small but growing following.
Then I went to back to college and stayed completely offline for a semester. On getting home, my blog was closed.
Google gave zero explanations why. Just an error message that said the blog was closed and would be unavailable for further use.
Not only that, my Gmail account was blocked too.
And above all, do not feed Facebook. I sometimes want to cry when I see how much effort people put into Facebook posts that live for a week or two and then disappear in a black hole forever.
And between DNS and hosting, it’s not that cheap either.
I've never been suspended, but if I were, I would be able to recreate most of my digital life from that backup, and either create a new Google account or move my business elsewhere.
Nobody I've met has ever had their main Google account permanently suspended. There are stories of it online, but I suspect it might be a vocal tiny minority (I'd be pretty vocal if I lost my online life too!). I suspect most of that tiny minority are either doing really evil things, or have malware on their machines doing really evil things with their login.
"They need to do something evil to be suspended". They need not.
edit: actually, scratch the 'if', I'd be interested to hear the rough shape of your script anyway!
And then when the promised email arrives I have a google docs script (pretty much googles copy of VBScript macros, but they can be run as a cronjob and easily search and access your email) which copies the data to my VPS and deletes the old copy of the data and the email.
Hopefully he has a better experience than I've had with them however if he gets traffic in big ways (say like front page of Reddit or HN) he might be in for a shock when they terminate service and try to push him to a higher plan.
So whatever else somebody at Dreamhost understands that "sorry" is not just a magic word that makes things OK by itself.
Only scummy thing I have seen them involved with is cloudatcost which I heard they bankrolled.
The only thing I could see violating TOS would be a misinterpretation of this proposition:
> Note that this model is based on data from races.
Where "races" would be taken for "Human races" rather than "Sport races" (as intended).
I do host my own email server as well, but still have some dependency on GMail.
I use google docs, but stuff that I don't care if they get vanished.
They suspended my google adwords and even though I sent emails and try to talk to them, follow every step of their guidelines, none of them helped, talking with Google support is like talking to robots, I tell them my account is suspended and ect they would respond "yes your account is suspend", such a waste of time.
Well, I try to not put important stuff online or at hands of some people who don't communicate and reason the suspension of my account.
Use more baskets for your eggs, not larger ones.
To be fair, in all the stories I've heard, Google was correct about the linkage, but it means that one person using 3 accounts gets less benefit from not linking them than one might think.
Google, to their credit, makes it very easy to download all your data: https://takeout.google.com
I had close to a decade of data on Gmail. I created a new email address on my own domain using Fastmail and set a vacation responder on my Gmail notifying people of my new address. I changed my email address on all my online accounts to my new address, and after probably six months or so took the plunge, downloaded all my Gmail data for archival and deleted my Gmail.
It was remarkably painless, and there are two tidbits that make it even easier:
1) You can delete your Gmail while keeping your Google account, and you can even use your new email address as your username for your existing Google account, so that things like Google Docs sharing still work seamlessly.
2) You don't lose your Gmail address, and you can re-enable it at any time (just in case you discover a critical account or something that you forgot to switch over).
Forward all emails to your new email address and reply from the new one.
Also use your email signature as an ad for your new email. Like this, "Please send all emails to my new email new@email"
Lastly, you can bcc your entire contacts - 20-40 per day informing them of your new email.
Hope this helps.
"Zoho.com CEO says domain with 40M users suspended for abuse complaint" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18059792
Blogger is not as good an option as it was before. It was an attractive buy for google at the time of the acquisition. But now they have stopped using it even for their own blogs. I wouldn't be surprised if Google decides to shut down blogger in the near future.
The new site has TLS (partially) configured, but doesn't upgrade users to it, making it effectively non-existent. I'm not sure if moving off of Google services to an insecure site for something like a blog is better or worse.
Probably better, as it provides a path forward for moving to a secure, de-Googled platform