Hey There, I've been asked for subdomains of ww.com and if I would give them out.
So, one time HN offer, if you want a subdomain of ww.com, you can have one for exactly $0.
- first come first served
- subdomains 3 letters or longer (and yes, 'www' is taken ;) )
- the subdomain is not currently in use by a ww.com user
(you can see that by going to subdomain.ww.com,
if it redirects to the homepage then you're good)
- you have a HN account with 20 karma or more
- you post your domain name in this thread with the IP to go with it
- no warez / copyright violations or other nonsense
- do not harm my business
- no spam, illegal content or otherwise bad behaviour,
first 'mistake' or headache for me and you lose
- never pretend that you represent ww.com
- send me an email to confirm this so I can contact you
- no guarantees, if ww.com gets sold or I have
a bad hairday you may lose it so don't use
it for anything critical
That's not to scare you, I just don't want to make promises that I can't keep in the longer term.
Offer valid for the next 24 hours.
if you liked this check http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1796266 Yan's book gift/exchange posting!
update: I'll make the DNS entries when this thread is 1 day old.
Why would anyone want this? They would have to trust jacquesm (as well intentioned as he may be) to continue to have awesome intentions forever... and if he/she ever sold the domain, everyone who has setup a subdomain would probably loose all the links they might have built to it.
The only reason I could potentially see this being useful is as a url shortcut... but still, you risk the same situation as when/if a url shortner like bit.ly goes out of business.
When you're building your brand equity, you got to make sure you own the equity that you're building. If you have a domain name, use it. If you don't like it, get a better one.
Most of the concerns you've got were addressed in the text above I believe.
As for me having 'good intentions' or not, time will be the judge of that, but let's just say that I spent a lot of time trying to be useful to HN and it would be a really dumb move to piss of a large portion of what has slowly become my network.
That said I can't offer guarantees hence the caveat.
Second, I think that most people here are more than smart enough to factor that in to their thinking and in to their use of the domain. But for those that do not, please take melvinram's warning to heart. So you've got my upvote.
Use Occam’s Razor in interpersonal relations: look for the simplest, most straightforward explanation that assumes the best of everybody. Stay away from people who always have a conspiracy theory involving twisted office politics, unfulfilled Machiavellian ambitions, and unspoken agendas.
Mostly to mess with my non-techy friends...would be particularly funny if you added google.ww.com -> Google and facebook.ww.com -> Facebook to support the lie. "Oh, it doesn't work for your site? Well, it only works for really important websites..."
Jacques, thanks so much for your generosity. Would it be possible to have matt.ww.com -> http://users.crhc.illinois.edu/johnso87/ ? Similar circumstances to BoppreH, if I'm reading correctly. matt.ww.com exists, but doesn't look particularly current.
If not, I don't currently have a public IP that I own. Anyone know the cheapest way to get one, other than a static IP from your ISP (I can't get one because mine doesn't give them out)? I'm imagining a small Linode instance or something of that nature, but I'm pretty green. Suggestions welcome. I could also snag a domain name and figure this all out later.
Thanks. And thanks for your generosity. I will remember this and hope to be in a position to give back to the community in a similar fashion some day.
Question: are you implementing this in such a way that you can measure redirects? Because that would seem to be a great way to gauge and sample the relative popularity of a wide variety of very interesting sites--excellent business intelligence.
It started off as just two domains, I'm actually a bit overwhelmed by the response, but that's nice as well.
For now what will happen is that I will set up DNS entries for all the A records and CNAMES, I don't feel like spying on anybodies traffic.
The two people that have asked for redirects to paths I'll have to handle in a different way, so I will have to make an exception for those two. The temptation to handle everybody with a db table in ww.com is definitely there but I think that it is better to handle things at the DNS level.
Unfortunately I don't have 20 points on this account..but I suppose it's worth a shot! Could I possibly get encrypt.ww.com -> encryptica.com? It's my startup's website and we're officially launching soon :)
Dank vriend, goede karma aan u!
I'd like 'tst.ww.com' but I can't tell if it's free (seems parked/squatted, but maybe not). My domain is www.tstw.co.uk - don't know my dns off hand but can find it if needed & will email you this post.
My problem is not you specifically, my problem is some joker that would abuse this to set up a gazillion spam hosts under ww.com as a tld and do un-repairable harm before I would clue in to it.
It's already a bit of a risk as it is (hence the 20 karma cap, I'm not too strict in looking at that if an account wasn't made 20 minutes ago), but I don't want to get burned.
I agree that the formal interpretation of 'subdomain' is one with delegation, but when someone says they put their usernames on 'subdomains' it is commonly understood to be a 3rd level host name, and not one with full delegation.
You could have surmised that from the bit that asks for 'the ip to go with it' and not for 'the ips of the name servers to go with it'.
Yes, the short version is someone auctioned it off on ebay (I never went to ebay in my life before then) and was apparently negotiating with weight watchers.
I had a lot of money set aside from the sale of 'gameplay.com', so over Christmas I negotiated with the guy (while all of Weight Watchers was on a holiday they well deserved) and by the 27th we had a deal. We set up an escrow, I paid, he transferred the domain.
Weight Watchers came back from their holiday and was sorely pissed off :)
Wow, great story, I have a similar one, a guy registers Orlando.com because orlandosurfnet is not available and he wants to do an ISP. Anyway, ISP does not go so well so he slaps up a booking engine from HRN now hotels.com and starts making a little bit of revenue. So HRN, Disney and a few other players are all after the domain and bombard the guy with lawyers. I am pretty sure he had Aspergers or some other form of high functioning autism. So I think it freaked him out and he just was not budging. So we go down to his office, talk to the guy take him to lunch find out what he really wants to do and just don't bombard the guy. We finalized the paperwork that day and grabbed it out from under the other players. Anyway, your story just reminded me that a little honest conversation and a little less business can go a long way some times. In the end everyone got what they wanted. Well not everyone but all the parties I was interested in did.
It shouldn't have any effect since Google views subdomains as separate entities. This is why it's better to have your company blog at www.domain.com/blog as opposed to blog.domain.com. Getting a lot of links to blog.domain.com doesn't help www.domain.com.
I was aware of that with Google (at present) but am not sure of the situation with Bing (or others) - that's why I asked, kinda.
I thought jacquesm might be ahead of the curve on something here or that he knew some trick for multiple category ranking or something.
I'd also imagine that it increases the instantaneous value of the domain from a sale perspective as a wider range of pages can be presented in the SERPs on a domain that has many subdomains if some subdomain is relevant to a particular search alongside the main domain.
Was just a thought really, thanks to jacquesm for answering.
Weird - no longer seeing my post upthread like I did before, so now not sure if you were replying to me. Board hiccup maybe? (or I'm easily confused late on a Friday...)
Going to repost below as a reply for reference so thread still makes sense. Thx again
Very cool offer - thank you. I'm probably begging for a karma hit here, but any chance I could get seo.ww.com? It resolves, but you mentioned that many accounts are abandoned, so figured it couldn't hurt to ask.
CNAME to 8020seo.com if possible - thanks!
Added note: site is still under construction at the moment, but is a web service company and will be not at all spammy.
> Looking forward to more positive contributions from you in the future.
This might be my favorite comment by you of all time Jacques - very elegant way of dealing with that nonsense. I don't need a subdomain, but much respect and cheers for doing this. And jeez, I guess there'll always be critics no matter what - "inconsiderate ass hole looking for glory/karma points" - that must be ever so enjoyable to see after devoting a few hours to setting people up and helping them out.
You know I have been watching these with interest. I think someone is trying to beat the turring test. The always seem to be in context, but don't seem to quite jive with the conversation. I have seen some that are pretty decent. I wonder if someone is using the voting system as feedback as to how well the bot is parsing the conversation and developing a convincing response. It is the only logical explanation that I can think of, They are never a good troll, they don't pitch viagra or some other crap, but obviously someone has put the effort to get it onto the board. The question is why. My thought is the kind of guy that would be trying to beat the turring test would be lurking on HN. Just a thought.
Update: well ok maybe not for this guy I see he posted later on down in the thread. But his first post did follow a pattern that I have been noticing in other threads.
Take it for what it is and use it to your advantage. If you find it useful or are grateful for the contribution then vote it up. The fact of the matter is that you are a hater. Here's another fun fact for you. Haters are the lamest kind of fans, because they're too proud/unaware to admit their love. Did you realize that by posting in the thread you're making it more popular? Threads with lots of comments get more views. Consider the outcome of your actions.
I guess you have not read the mantra around here, according to PG and I am paraphrasing here so forgive me if I don't do it justice. He does not want it to prosper beyond it's core focus. My understanding is that he is not interested in creating the next Slashdot or Reddit. As a former Slashdotter with a extremely low user id, I understand why, I witnessed it happening over time. With that prosperity comes a watered down environment where memes, on liners and +5 funny's, and flaming trolls such as yourself are the rage. It kills the brand and drives people like myself away. I lurked here for a long time before deciding to join, and the reason I finally did was the fact that there is a concerted effort to keep HN from becoming Slashdot.