I'm mostly interested in the Greater Toronto Area, but feel free to post your datapoints for other places as well!
Vancouver numbers I know from friends, mostly from a couple years ago, web application dev:
- Starting salary around 60K CAD
- Mid range 70-90K
- Senior 90-130K
Companies like Amazon pay ~25% more than this, but are also more demanding of time and sanity
Go browse AngelList, lots of offers with salaries there from smaller companies.
I (and about 50 of my developer coworkers) make those sort of salaries here in small-town Quebec, with significantly cheaper housing than even Montreal.
I'm sure Vancouver is a beautiful city, but comparing those salary numbers against the housing over there makes it extremely unattractive.
Do you have experience with this? :)
Compare to silicon valley - the difference is between 2x - 4x.
Canada always been a joke is high tech pays. Add miserable weather to that and that completes the package.
> miserable weather
The weather is as miserable as we let it make us. Canadians in general love to complain about the weather but I don't think it is that bad. It can be cold or hot, snowy or rainy but most days are quite nice. When I lived in California I missed the changing seasons, fall colours and snow at Christmas.
I am happy to pay for air tickets and buy a dinner for my Canadian friends during fall colors season.
After all - I'll be coming back to summer, but it's all downhill for them from that point on, weatherwise.
Some people are managing to convince themselves that Canadian weather is great but I don't have these masochistic talents. Having said that - I loved hot and often humid Canadian summers (Eastern Ontario and Quebec) - but these are too short anyways.
Sluggish resale housing market (my personal repeated experience). I lived in a real nice area in Kanata (West Ottawa) and it took us 1.5 yrs to sell a house.
With Silicon Valey salary i luckily was able to afford to pay single house rent here + Canadian mortgage payment.
California taxes are high, but Canadian are higher.
I better stop. :)
Is this true for the whole country?
Also, what about the healthcare? (compared to US)
But other, more mundane problems are not solved as well. Try finding a family doctor (GP) in Vancouver, none of them accept new patients. So a lot of people have to go to walk in clinics where the doctor has never seen you before and might not see you again. Ok to get a prescription, not good for a case that spans multiple visits.
But hey on the plus side the biggest financial annoyance are hospital parking fees. Which are not especially high, just to clarify. So far I'm happy to take this tradeoff.
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