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>I'm saying almost all home-users have NAT and can communicate to remote services on most high ports.

Sorry, that's patently false and flies in the face of reality.

>If you're claiming otherwise, you should be able to provide some evidence to back that up.

You can start here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17569715

> Yes. Like where they don't control the client

That is patently false. The problems isn't caused by not controlling the client. The primary problem is that they don't control the network, which means each and every single node between client and server, and HTTP reduces or eliminates the chance that one of those nodes doesn't cooperate.




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